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Date:   Tue, 08 Oct 2019 09:48:39 +0200
From:   Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@...e.cz>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
        Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Matt Fleming <matt@...eblueprint.co.uk>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Quentin Perret <qperret@...rret.net>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Doug Smythies <dsmythies@...us.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86,sched: Add support for frequency invariance

On Thu, 2019-10-03 at 19:53 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:15:37 PM CEST Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 12:27:52PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:29:25 PM CEST Giovanni Gherdovich wrote:
> > > > +static bool turbo_disabled(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	u64 misc_en;
> > > > +	int err;
> > > > +
> > > > +	err = rdmsrl_safe(MSR_IA32_MISC_ENABLE, &misc_en);
> > > > +	if (err)
> > > > +		return false;
> > > > +
> > > > +	return (misc_en & MSR_IA32_MISC_ENABLE_TURBO_DISABLE);
> > > > +}
> > > 
> > > This setting may be updated by the platform firmware (BIOS) in some cases
> > > (see kernel.org BZ 200759, for example), so in general checking it once
> > > at the init time is not enough.
> > 
> > Is there anything sane we can do if the BIOS frobs stuff like that under
> > our feet? Other than yell bloody murder, that is?
> 
> Sane?  No, I don't think so.
> 
> Now, in principle *something* could be done to fix things up in the _PPC
> notify handler, but I guess we would just end up disabling the scale
> invariance code altogether in those cases.

I'm looking at how to react to turbo being disabled at run time, assuming a
_PPC notification is triggered in that case.

I don't think the correct action would be to disable scale invariance: if the
turbo range is not available, then max frequency is max_P, and scale
invariance can go on using that. The case max_freq=max_P is represented by
arch_max_freq=1024 in this patch (because arch_max_freq=max_freq*1024/max_P).

Since the variable arch_max_freq is global to all CPUs, the fact that the _PPC
notification is sent to just one CPU is not a concern: the CPU receiving the
notif will set arch_max_freq=1024 (Srinivas was worried about this in another
message).

This looks like a job for the ->update_limits callback you added to "struct
cpufreq_driver" in response to the mentioned kernel.org BZ 200759.
I see that only intel_pstate implements it, it's not clear to me yet if I'll
have to give an ->update_limits to acpi_cpufreq as well to treat this case.


Giovanni

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