linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20191016093610.GA9193@linux-8ccs>
Date:   Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:36:10 +0200
From:   Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Miroslav Benes <mbenes@...e.cz>,
        Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@...hat.com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mhiramat@...nel.org,
        bristot@...hat.com, jbaron@...mai.com,
        torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, tglx@...utronix.de,
        mingo@...nel.org, namit@...are.com, hpa@...or.com, luto@...nel.org,
        ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org, jpoimboe@...hat.com,
        live-patching@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke()

+++ Peter Zijlstra [16/10/19 11:23 +0200]:
>On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 08:51:27AM +0200, Miroslav Benes wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Joe Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> > On 10/15/19 10:13 AM, Miroslav Benes wrote:
>> > > Yes, it does. klp_module_coming() calls module_disable_ro() on all
>> > > patching modules which patch the coming module in order to call
>> > > apply_relocate_add(). New (patching) code for a module can be relocated
>> > > only when the relevant module is loaded.
>> >
>> > FWIW, would the LPC blue-sky2 model (ie, Steve's suggestion @ plumber's where
>> > livepatches only patch a single object and updates are kept on disk to handle
>> > coming module updates as they are loaded) eliminate those outstanding
>> > relocations and the need to perform this late permission flipping?
>>
>> Yes, it should, but we don't have to wait for it. PeterZ proposed a
>> different solution to this specific issue in
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191015141111.GP2359@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/
>>
>> It should not be a problem to create a live patch module like that and the
>> code in kernel/livepatch/ is almost ready. Something like
>> module_section_disable_ro(mod, section) (and similar for X protection)
>> should be enough. Module reloads would still require juggling with the
>> protections, but I think it is all feasible.
>
>Just had a browse around the module code, and while the section info is
>in load_info, it doesn't get retained for active modules.
>
>So I suppose I'll go add that for KLP enabled things.

Elf section info does get saved for livepatch modules though, see
mod->klp_info. And wouldn't this only be needed for livepatch modules?