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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1910171256580.1824@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
Date:   Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:15:15 +0200 (CEST)
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ux.intel.com>
cc:     Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        "Christopher S . Hall" <christopher.s.hall@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] x86: tsc: add tsc to art helpers

Hi,

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> (sorry for the long delay, got caught up in other tasks)

Delayed by vacation :)

> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> writes:
> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> writes:
> >> > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So some information what those interfaces are used for and why they are
> >> > needed would be really helpful.
> >> 
> >> Okay, I have some more details about this. The TGPIO device itself uses
> >> ART since TSC is not directly available to anything other than the
> >> CPU. The 'problem' here is that reading ART incurs extra latency which
> >> we would like to avoid. Therefore, we use TSC and scale it to
> >> nanoseconds which, would be the same as ART to ns.
> >
> > Fine. But that's not really correct:
> >
> >       TSC = art_to_tsc_offset + ART * scale;
> 
> From silicon folks I got the equation:
> 
> ART = ECX * EBX / EAX;

What is the content of ECX/EBX/EAX and where is it coming from?
 
> If I'm reading this correctly, that's basically what
> native_calibrate_tsc() does (together with some error checking the safe
> defaults). Couldn't we, instead, just have a single function like below?
> 
> u64 convert_tsc_to_art_ns()
> {
> 	return x86_platform.calibrate_tsc();
> }

Huch? How is that supposed to work? calibrate_tsc() returns the TSC
frequency.

> Another way would be extract the important parts from
> native_calibrate_tsc() into a separate helper. This would safe another
> call to cpuid(0x15,...);

What for?

The relation between TSC and ART is already established via detect_art()
which reads all relevant data out of CPUID(ART_CPUID_LEAF).

We use exactly that information for convert_art_to_tsc() so the obvious
solution for calculating ART from TSC is to do the reverse operation.

convert_art_to_tsc()
{
        rem = do_div(art, art_to_tsc_denominator);

        res = art * art_to_tsc_numerator;
        tmp = rem * art_to_tsc_numerator;

        do_div(tmp, art_to_tsc_denominator);
        res += tmp + art_to_tsc_offset;
}

which is translated into math:

      TSC = ART * SCALE + OFFSET

where

      SCALE = N / D

and

      N = CPUID(ART_CPUID_LEAF).EAX
      D = CPUID(ART_CPUID_LEAF).EBX

So the obvious reverse operation is:

     ART = (TSC - OFFSET) / SCALE;

Translating that into code should not be rocket science.

Thanks,

	tglx

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