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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 19:42:06 +0200
From: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
To: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@...gle.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/18] add support for Clang's Shadow Call Stack (SCS)
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 6:14 PM Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@...gle.com> wrote:
> This change adds generic support for Clang's Shadow Call Stack, which
> uses a shadow stack to protect return addresses from being overwritten
> by an attacker. Details are available here:
>
> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ShadowCallStack.html
(As I mentioned in the other thread, the security documentation there
doesn't fit the kernel usecase.)
[...]
> +config SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP
> + def_bool n
> + depends on SHADOW_CALL_STACK
> + help
> + Use virtually mapped shadow call stacks. Selecting this option
> + provides better stack exhaustion protection, but increases per-thread
> + memory consumption as a full page is allocated for each shadow stack.
Without CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP, after 128 small stack frames,
you overflow into random physmap memory even if the main stack is
vmapped... I guess you can't get around that without making the SCS
instrumentation more verbose. :/
Could you maybe change things so that independent of whether you have
vmapped SCS or slab-allocated SCS, the scs_corrupted() check looks at
offset 1024-8 (where it currently is for the slab-allocated case)?
That way, code won't suddenly stop working when you disable
CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP; and especially if you use
CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP for development and testing but disable
it in production, that would be annoying.
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