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Date:   Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:15:53 +0100
From:   Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@...e.com>
To:     Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...ux.alibaba.com>,
        Aubrey Li <aubrey.intel@...il.com>
Cc:     Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Julien Desfossez <jdesfossez@...italocean.com>,
        "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>,
        Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@...cle.com>,
        Vineeth Remanan Pillai <vpillai@...italocean.com>,
        Nishanth Aravamudan <naravamudan@...italocean.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kerr <kerrnel@...gle.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3

On Tue, 2019-10-29 at 10:11 +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 22:14 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > I'm using the following branch as base which is v5.1.5 based:
> > https://github.com/digitalocean/linux-coresched coresched-v3-
> > v5.1.5-
> > test
> > 
> > And I have pushed Tim's branch to:
> > https://github.com/aaronlu/linux coresched-v3-v5.1.5-test-tim
> > 
> > Mine:
> > https://github.com/aaronlu/linux coresched-v3-v5.1.5-test-
> > core_vruntime
> > 
> Hello,
> 
> As anticipated, I've been trying to follow the development of this
> feature and, in the meantime, I have done some benchmarks.
> 
> I actually have a lot of data (and am planning for more), so I am
> sending a few emails, each one with a subset of the numbers in it,
> instead than just one which would be beyond giant! :-)
> 
HACKBENCH-PROCESS-PIPES
=======================

http://xenbits.xen.org/people/dariof/benchmarks/results/linux/core-sched/mmtests/boxes/wayrath/coresched-email-2_hackbench.txt

                                  v                      v                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM
                              BM-HT                BM-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1       0.4372 (   0.00%)      0.6714 * -53.57%*      0.4242 (   2.97%)      0.6654 * -52.20%*      1.1748 *-168.71%*      1.1666 *-166.83%*      1.1496 *-162.95%*      1.3696 *-213.27%*
Amean     3       1.1466 (   0.00%)      2.0284 * -76.91%*      1.1700 (  -2.04%)      2.0320 * -77.22%*      6.8484 *-497.28%*      6.7128 *-485.45%*      6.8068 *-493.65%*      7.9702 *-595.12%*
Amean     5       2.0140 (   0.00%)      2.7834 * -38.20%*      2.0116 (   0.12%)      2.6688 * -32.51%*     11.9494 *-493.32%*     11.9450 *-493.10%*     12.0904 *-500.32%*     14.4190 *-615.94%*
Amean     7       2.5396 (   0.00%)      3.3064 * -30.19%*      2.6002 (  -2.39%)      2.9074 * -14.48%*     16.0142 *-530.58%*     16.3418 *-543.48%*     17.0896 *-572.92%*     20.2050 *-695.60%*
Amean     12      3.2930 (   0.00%)      2.9830 (   9.41%)      3.4226 (  -3.94%)      2.8522 (  13.39%)     28.1482 *-754.79%*     27.3916 *-731.81%*     28.5938 *-768.32%*     34.6184 *-951.27%*
Amean     18      3.9452 (   0.00%)      4.0806 (  -3.43%)      3.7950 (   3.81%)      3.8938 (   1.30%)     41.7120 *-957.28%*     42.1062 *-967.28%*     44.2136 *-1020.69%*     51.0200 *-1193.22%*
Amean     24      4.1618 (   0.00%)      4.8466 * -16.45%*      4.2258 (  -1.54%)      5.0720 * -21.87%*     56.8598 *-1266.23%*     57.3568 *-1278.17%*     61.2660 *-1372.10%*     68.2538 *-1540.01%*
Amean     30      4.7790 (   0.00%)      5.9726 * -24.98%*      4.8756 (  -2.02%)      5.9434 * -24.36%*     72.1602 *-1409.94%*     75.8036 *-1486.18%*     80.0066 *-1574.13%*     81.3768 *-1602.80%*
Amean     32      5.1680 (   0.00%)      6.6000 * -27.71%*      5.2004 (  -0.63%)      6.5490 * -26.72%*     78.1974 *-1413.11%*     82.9812 *-1505.67%*     87.7340 *-1597.64%*     85.6876 *-1558.04%*
Stddev    1       0.0173 (   0.00%)      0.0624 (-259.99%)      0.0129 (  25.54%)      0.0451 (-160.36%)      0.0727 (-319.12%)      0.0954 (-450.05%)      0.0545 (-214.16%)      0.0960 (-453.74%)
Stddev    3       0.0471 (   0.00%)      0.3035 (-544.20%)      0.0547 ( -16.12%)      0.2745 (-482.52%)      0.2029 (-330.60%)      0.1102 (-133.97%)      0.2391 (-407.38%)      0.1864 (-295.62%)
Stddev    5       0.1492 (   0.00%)      0.4178 (-180.05%)      0.1419 (   4.88%)      0.2569 ( -72.22%)      0.3878 (-159.96%)      0.2584 ( -73.22%)      0.4259 (-185.47%)      0.3340 (-123.89%)
Stddev    7       0.2077 (   0.00%)      0.2941 ( -41.59%)      0.2281 (  -9.85%)      0.2049 (   1.33%)      0.3922 ( -88.86%)      0.8178 (-293.78%)      0.4064 ( -95.67%)      0.6127 (-195.02%)
Stddev    12      0.5560 (   0.00%)      0.2038 (  63.34%)      0.2113 (  62.00%)      0.2490 (  55.21%)      1.0797 ( -94.21%)      0.7564 ( -36.06%)      1.0225 ( -83.91%)      1.5233 (-174.01%)
Stddev    18      0.3556 (   0.00%)      0.3110 (  12.55%)      0.3054 (  14.11%)      0.1265 (  64.43%)      1.0258 (-188.47%)      1.4386 (-304.53%)      1.1818 (-232.33%)      2.6710 (-651.08%)
Stddev    24      0.1844 (   0.00%)      0.1614 (  12.46%)      0.1135 (  38.46%)      0.3679 ( -99.54%)      2.0997 (-1038.84%)      1.1493 (-523.36%)      0.5214 (-182.79%)      2.9229 (-1485.35%)
Stddev    30      0.1420 (   0.00%)      0.0875 (  38.37%)      0.1799 ( -26.66%)      0.1076 (  24.26%)      4.5079 (-3073.51%)      1.5704 (-1005.58%)      1.4054 (-889.42%)      4.5743 (-3120.26%)
Stddev    32      0.2184 (   0.00%)      0.2427 ( -11.11%)      0.3143 ( -43.92%)      0.3517 ( -61.01%)      3.7345 (-1609.81%)      1.3564 (-521.00%)      2.1822 (-899.11%)      4.0896 (-1772.40%)
                                  v                      v                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM
                              VM-HT                VM-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1       0.6762 (   0.00%)      1.6824 *-148.80%*      0.6630 (   1.95%)      1.5706 *-132.27%*      0.6600 (   2.40%)      0.6514 (   3.67%)      0.6780 (  -0.27%)      0.6964 *  -2.99%*
Amean     3       1.7130 (   0.00%)      2.2806 * -33.13%*      1.8074 *  -5.51%*      2.1882 * -27.74%*      1.7992 (  -5.03%)      1.7896 *  -4.47%*      1.7760 (  -3.68%)      1.8264 *  -6.62%*
Amean     5       2.8688 (   0.00%)      2.8048 (   2.23%)      2.5880 *   9.79%*      2.8474 (   0.75%)      2.5486 *  11.16%*      2.7896 (   2.76%)      2.4402 *  14.94%*      2.6020 *   9.30%*
Amean     7       3.3432 (   0.00%)      3.3434 (  -0.01%)      3.4564 (  -3.39%)      3.4704 (  -3.80%)      3.2424 (   3.02%)      3.5620 (  -6.54%)      3.0352 (   9.21%)      3.0874 (   7.65%)
Amean     12      5.8936 (   0.00%)      4.9968 *  15.22%*      5.1560 *  12.52%*      5.0670 *  14.03%*      4.2722 *  27.51%*      5.6570 (   4.01%)      4.8270 *  18.10%*      4.2514 *  27.86%*
Amean     18      6.3938 (   0.00%)      7.0542 ( -10.33%)      6.4900 (  -1.50%)      6.9682 (  -8.98%)      5.6478 (  11.67%)      7.4324 ( -16.24%)      6.3160 (   1.22%)      6.5124 (  -1.85%)
Amean     24      7.6278 (   0.00%)      9.5096 * -24.67%*      7.0062 *   8.15%*      9.0278 * -18.35%*      7.5650 (   0.82%)      8.2604 (  -8.29%)      8.5372 ( -11.92%)      7.7008 (  -0.96%)
Amean     30     10.5534 (   0.00%)     10.9456 (  -3.72%)     11.4470 (  -8.47%)     11.1330 (  -5.49%)      8.8486 (  16.15%)     10.8508 (  -2.82%)     12.6182 ( -19.57%)     10.5836 (  -0.29%)
Amean     32     11.6024 (   0.00%)     12.6052 (  -8.64%)     10.8236 (   6.71%)     11.2156 (   3.33%)      9.0654 *  21.87%*     11.5074 (   0.82%)     10.3592 (  10.72%)     11.7174 (  -0.99%)
Stddev    1       0.0143 (   0.00%)      0.3700 (-2480.08%)      0.0261 ( -82.29%)      0.1206 (-741.16%)      0.0444 (-209.74%)      0.0270 ( -88.42%)      0.0238 ( -65.73%)      0.0180 ( -25.17%)
Stddev    3       0.0473 (   0.00%)      0.1384 (-192.63%)      0.0739 ( -56.38%)      0.0714 ( -51.01%)      0.0931 ( -96.94%)      0.0517 (  -9.28%)      0.0960 (-103.02%)      0.0553 ( -17.04%)
Stddev    5       0.1236 (   0.00%)      0.2251 ( -82.10%)      0.1607 ( -29.98%)      0.1464 ( -18.41%)      0.1319 (  -6.69%)      0.1842 ( -48.96%)      0.0647 (  47.66%)      0.1977 ( -59.92%)
Stddev    7       0.3597 (   0.00%)      0.1105 (  69.27%)      0.2288 (  36.38%)      0.1335 (  62.90%)      0.3131 (  12.94%)      0.2958 (  17.76%)      0.1581 (  56.05%)      0.2361 (  34.37%)
Stddev    12      0.4677 (   0.00%)      0.0846 (  81.91%)      0.6319 ( -35.11%)      0.1526 (  67.37%)      0.3591 (  23.23%)      0.6898 ( -47.48%)      0.4853 (  -3.76%)      0.2963 (  36.64%)
Stddev    18      1.2289 (   0.00%)      0.1849 (  84.95%)      1.1160 (   9.18%)      0.2497 (  79.68%)      0.9843 (  19.90%)      0.9542 (  22.35%)      0.6621 (  46.12%)      0.7668 (  37.60%)
Stddev    24      0.5202 (   0.00%)      0.9344 ( -79.60%)      0.1940 (  62.71%)      0.4706 (   9.53%)      0.8362 ( -60.73%)      1.0819 (-107.96%)      1.0229 ( -96.63%)      0.8881 ( -70.72%)
Stddev    30      2.1557 (   0.00%)      0.7984 (  62.96%)      1.2499 (  42.02%)      0.9804 (  54.52%)      0.4846 (  77.52%)      1.2901 (  40.15%)      1.5532 (  27.95%)      1.2932 (  40.01%)
Stddev    32      2.2255 (   0.00%)      1.1321 (  49.13%)      2.2380 (  -0.56%)      0.2127 (  90.44%)      0.3654 (  83.58%)      1.5727 (  29.33%)      2.3291 (  -4.66%)      2.0936 (   5.93%)
                                  v                      v                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM
                           VM-v4-HT             VM-v4-noHT                  v4-HT                v4-noHT              v4-csc-HT     v4-csc_stallfix-HT          v4-csc_tim-HT     v4-csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1       1.2194 (   0.00%)      1.1974 (   1.80%)      1.0308 *  15.47%*      1.1054 *   9.35%*      1.0522 *  13.71%*      1.2290 (  -0.79%)      1.1392 *   6.58%*      1.0524 *  13.70%*
Amean     3       2.2568 (   0.00%)      2.0588 (   8.77%)      2.0708 (   8.24%)      2.2352 (   0.96%)      2.1808 (   3.37%)      2.2820 (  -1.12%)      2.1682 (   3.93%)      2.2598 (  -0.13%)
Amean     5       2.9848 (   0.00%)      2.9912 (  -0.21%)      2.4938 *  16.45%*      2.4634 *  17.47%*      2.6890 (   9.91%)      2.8908 (   3.15%)      2.8636 (   4.06%)      2.4158 *  19.06%*
Amean     7       3.4500 (   0.00%)      3.2538 (   5.69%)      3.3646 (   2.48%)      3.2666 (   5.32%)      3.0800 (  10.72%)      4.2206 ( -22.34%)      3.1016 (  10.10%)      3.2186 (   6.71%)
Amean     12      6.0414 (   0.00%)      5.0624 (  16.20%)      5.1276 (  15.13%)      5.1066 (  15.47%)      4.7728 *  21.00%*      5.5068 (   8.85%)      4.7544 *  21.30%*      5.8920 (   2.47%)
Amean     16      7.5510 (   0.00%)      7.6888 (  -1.82%)      6.9732 (   7.65%)      5.9098 *  21.73%*      6.5542 *  13.20%*      6.9492 (   7.97%)      6.4372 *  14.75%*      6.1968 *  17.93%*
Stddev    1       0.0786 (   0.00%)      0.1166 ( -48.34%)      0.1762 (-124.09%)      0.0712 (   9.45%)      0.1541 ( -95.99%)      0.0814 (  -3.55%)      0.0452 (  42.57%)      0.1817 (-131.05%)
Stddev    3       0.2220 (   0.00%)      0.1887 (  15.03%)      0.2174 (   2.07%)      0.1368 (  38.37%)      0.1928 (  13.17%)      0.4342 ( -95.57%)      0.2353 (  -5.97%)      0.1753 (  21.06%)
Stddev    5       0.4586 (   0.00%)      0.4689 (  -2.23%)      0.3202 (  30.19%)      0.2666 (  41.88%)      0.3108 (  32.24%)      0.2876 (  37.29%)      0.4067 (  11.33%)      0.3010 (  34.37%)
Stddev    7       0.3769 (   0.00%)      0.5242 ( -39.09%)      0.2523 (  33.06%)      0.2498 (  33.71%)      0.4527 ( -20.13%)      1.5089 (-300.36%)      0.3998 (  -6.09%)      0.4018 (  -6.62%)
Stddev    12      1.0604 (   0.00%)      0.5194 (  51.02%)      0.5646 (  46.75%)      0.5255 (  50.45%)      0.4872 (  54.06%)      0.3447 (  67.49%)      0.5492 (  48.21%)      0.5487 (  48.26%)
Stddev    16      0.6245 (   0.00%)      0.5220 (  16.40%)      0.6914 ( -10.71%)      0.6984 ( -11.83%)      0.3543 (  43.27%)      0.5137 (  17.74%)      0.5083 (  18.61%)      1.0744 ( -72.04%)
                                  v                      v                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2
                            VMx2-HT              VMx2-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1       0.6780 (   0.00%)      2.1522 *-217.43%*      1.6790 *-147.64%*      2.2440 *-230.97%*     15.6090 *-2202.21%*      9.1920 *-1255.75%*      2.0732 *-205.78%*      2.2390 *-230.24%*
Amean     3       1.8452 (   0.00%)      3.2456 * -75.89%*      2.5214 * -36.65%*      3.3944 * -83.96%*     13.7258 *-643.87%*      9.7654 *-429.23%*      2.6668 * -44.53%*      2.9044 * -57.40%*
Amean     5       2.8564 (   0.00%)      4.2548 * -48.96%*      3.2500 * -13.78%*      4.3958 * -53.89%*     11.6808 *-308.93%*      8.4724 *-196.61%*      3.4000 * -19.03%*      3.5298 * -23.58%*
Amean     7       3.3712 (   0.00%)      5.1056 * -51.45%*      4.1636 * -23.50%*      4.9874 * -47.94%*     14.0516 (-316.81%)      9.1454 *-171.28%*      4.1396 * -22.79%*      4.3570 * -29.24%*
Amean     12      4.8134 (   0.00%)      7.4516 * -54.81%*      6.1254 * -27.26%*      7.3488 * -52.67%*     13.7680 *-186.03%*     13.7400 *-185.45%*      6.0424 * -25.53%*      6.3404 * -31.72%*
Amean     18      6.1980 (   0.00%)     10.4126 * -68.00%*      8.5942 * -38.66%*      9.7554 * -57.40%*     10.7234 * -73.01%*     13.5214 *-118.16%*      8.6628 * -39.77%*      8.5910 * -38.61%*
Amean     24      8.2116 (   0.00%)     12.7570 * -55.35%*     10.9386 * -33.21%*     12.9032 * -57.13%*     17.8492 *-117.37%*     14.4432 * -75.89%*     10.7488 * -30.90%*     11.1930 * -36.31%*
Amean     30      9.3264 (   0.00%)     15.3704 * -64.81%*     13.6630 * -46.50%*     15.4806 * -65.99%*     16.9272 * -81.50%*     18.4184 * -97.49%*     13.6174 * -46.01%*     13.5026 * -44.78%*
Amean     32     10.1954 (   0.00%)     16.5494 * -62.32%*     14.7450 * -44.62%*     16.4650 * -61.49%*     13.9146 * -36.48%*     17.5790 * -72.42%*     14.6072 * -43.27%*     14.0346 * -37.66%*
Stddev    1       0.0129 (   0.00%)      0.2665 (-1959.36%)      0.2262 (-1647.54%)      0.0703 (-443.26%)      9.5450 (-73651.40%)      6.3226 (-48752.57%)      0.1736 (-1241.41%)      0.3070 (-2272.09%)
Stddev    3       0.1156 (   0.00%)      0.3653 (-215.89%)      0.1388 ( -20.00%)      0.2067 ( -78.77%)      3.3781 (-2821.39%)      3.2241 (-2688.20%)      0.0970 (  16.10%)      0.1247 (  -7.87%)
Stddev    5       0.0817 (   0.00%)      0.2968 (-263.19%)      0.0938 ( -14.79%)      0.1367 ( -67.25%)      3.1273 (-3726.47%)      3.9175 (-4693.34%)      0.1155 ( -41.31%)      0.1864 (-128.10%)
Stddev    7       0.1190 (   0.00%)      0.1337 ( -12.31%)      0.3136 (-163.48%)      0.2034 ( -70.91%)     17.1856 (-14336.96%)      2.8676 (-2308.94%)      0.0794 (  33.32%)      0.1362 ( -14.42%)
Stddev    12      0.5237 (   0.00%)      0.2929 (  44.08%)      0.1386 (  73.53%)      0.2330 (  55.51%)      7.1869 (-1272.26%)      8.0085 (-1429.13%)      0.2535 (  51.59%)      0.1441 (  72.49%)
Stddev    18      0.4791 (   0.00%)      0.1528 (  68.10%)      0.4254 (  11.21%)      0.2953 (  38.37%)      2.8492 (-494.71%)      4.3767 (-813.54%)      0.3205 (  33.10%)      0.3094 (  35.43%)
Stddev    24      1.1591 (   0.00%)      0.2616 (  77.43%)      0.2446 (  78.90%)      0.4363 (  62.36%)      5.3380 (-360.53%)      3.2433 (-179.81%)      0.2704 (  76.67%)      0.4402 (  62.02%)
Stddev    30      0.6561 (   0.00%)      0.4008 (  38.91%)      0.2670 (  59.31%)      0.1451 (  77.88%)      4.5765 (-597.54%)      4.2380 (-545.95%)      0.4768 (  27.33%)      0.2693 (  58.96%)
Stddev    32      1.2197 (   0.00%)      0.4459 (  63.44%)      0.5496 (  54.94%)      0.4179 (  65.74%)      1.3553 ( -11.12%)      4.3537 (-256.96%)      0.5602 (  54.07%)      0.5312 (  56.45%)

So, situation looks pretty *terrible* on baremetal. Well, something to
investigate, I guess.

In VMs, on the other hand, things don't look too bad. Although, it's a
bit weird that the benchmark seems to be sensitive to HT when run on
baremetal, but not so much when run in VMs. Among the various core
scheduling implementations/patches, plain v3 seems to have issues with
this workload, while Tim's and vruntime are better.

It is confirmed that, in virtualization scenario, under
overcommittment, core scheduling is more effective than disabling
HyperThreading, at least either with Tim's or with vruntime patches.

Overhead wise, it is an hard call. Numbers vary a lot, and I think each
group of measurements needs to be looked at carefully to come up with a
sensible analysis.

Overhead is there, that's for sure, in the baremetal case. Also, it
looks more severe when HT is disabled (e.g., comapre v-BM-noHT with BM-
noHT).

In virt cases, it's really an hard call. E.g., when a VM with 4 vCPUs
is used, core scheduling seems to be able to make the system
significantly faster! :-O
-- 
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D
http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Virtualization Software Engineer
SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/
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