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Date:   Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:18:04 +0100
From:   Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@...e.com>
To:     Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...ux.alibaba.com>,
        Aubrey Li <aubrey.intel@...il.com>
Cc:     Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Julien Desfossez <jdesfossez@...italocean.com>,
        "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>,
        Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@...cle.com>,
        Vineeth Remanan Pillai <vpillai@...italocean.com>,
        Nishanth Aravamudan <naravamudan@...italocean.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kerr <kerrnel@...gle.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@...hat.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3

On Tue, 2019-10-29 at 10:11 +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 22:14 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > I'm using the following branch as base which is v5.1.5 based:
> > https://github.com/digitalocean/linux-coresched coresched-v3-
> > v5.1.5-
> > test
> > 
> > And I have pushed Tim's branch to:
> > https://github.com/aaronlu/linux coresched-v3-v5.1.5-test-tim
> > 
> > Mine:
> > https://github.com/aaronlu/linux coresched-v3-v5.1.5-test-
> > core_vruntime
> > 
> Hello,
> 
> As anticipated, I've been trying to follow the development of this
> feature and, in the meantime, I have done some benchmarks.
> 
> I actually have a lot of data (and am planning for more), so I am
> sending a few emails, each one with a subset of the numbers in it,
> instead than just one which would be beyond giant! :-)
> 
SYSBENCHTHREAD
==============

http://xenbits.xen.org/people/dariof/benchmarks/results/linux/core-sched/mmtests/boxes/wayrath/coresched-email-5_sysbenchthread.txt

                                  v                      v                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM                     BM
                              BM-HT                BM-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1         1.12 (   0.00%)        1.11 (   0.38%)        1.14 *  -2.43%*        1.15 *  -2.81%*        8.49 *-659.72%*        8.43 *-654.99%*        8.42 *-653.96%*        8.38 *-649.74%*
Amean     3         1.11 (   0.00%)        1.11 (   0.00%)        1.14 *  -2.70%*        1.14 *  -2.96%*        8.35 *-651.29%*        8.42 *-657.20%*        8.34 *-650.77%*        8.41 *-656.56%*
Amean     5         1.11 (   0.00%)        1.11 (   0.00%)        1.14 *  -2.70%*        1.14 *  -2.82%*        8.34 *-649.81%*        8.41 *-655.46%*        8.32 *-647.75%*        8.34 *-649.42%*
Amean     7         1.12 (   0.00%)        1.11 (   0.38%)        1.14 *  -2.43%*        1.15 *  -2.69%*        8.31 *-643.48%*        8.40 *-652.05%*        8.41 *-653.20%*        8.33 *-645.65%*
Amean     12        1.12 (   0.00%)        1.12 (   0.00%)        1.14 *  -2.43%*        1.14 *  -2.56%*        8.38 *-651.34%*        8.41 *-654.16%*        8.32 *-645.71%*        8.38 *-651.09%*
Amean     16        1.11 (   0.00%)        1.11 (  -0.13%)        1.15 *  -3.08%*        1.14 *  -2.57%*        8.42 *-656.61%*        8.36 *-651.60%*        8.31 *-646.73%*        8.39 *-654.30%*
Stddev    1         0.01 (   0.00%)        0.01 (  49.47%)        0.01 (  64.27%)        0.01 (  39.86%)        0.08 (-414.47%)        0.16 (-976.34%)        0.01 (  36.42%)        0.09 (-525.69%)
Stddev    3         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 (-108.17%)        0.13 (-3211.60%)        0.10 (-2531.86%)        0.06 (-1515.55%)        0.10 (-2467.10%)
Stddev    5         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 (  -9.54%)        0.12 (-2271.92%)        0.10 (-1917.42%)        0.09 (-1700.00%)        0.09 (-1725.38%)
Stddev    7         0.01 (   0.00%)        0.01 (  20.53%)        0.01 (  43.80%)        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.13 (-1255.69%)        0.10 (-988.21%)        0.03 (-247.93%)        0.08 (-762.68%)
Stddev    12        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.01 ( -24.03%)        0.00 (  37.98%)        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.13 (-1577.68%)        0.10 (-1210.31%)        0.10 (-1140.97%)        0.06 (-644.73%)
Stddev    16        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 (  -9.54%)        0.01 ( -54.92%)        0.00 (  22.54%)        0.15 (-3032.73%)        0.12 (-2401.20%)        0.11 (-2206.51%)        0.07 (-1304.28%)
                                  v                      v                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM
                              VM-HT                VM-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1         1.43 (   0.00%)        1.15 *  19.56%*        1.15 *  19.36%*        1.19 *  16.67%*        1.16 *  19.16%*        1.17 *  18.46%*        1.16 *  18.66%*        1.16 *  18.86%*
Amean     3         1.43 (   0.00%)        1.16 *  19.16%*        1.16 *  19.26%*        1.17 *  18.46%*        1.16 *  19.16%*        1.21 *  15.17%*        1.16 *  18.86%*        1.21 *  15.27%*
Amean     5         1.43 (   0.00%)        1.15 *  19.28%*        1.18 *  17.78%*        1.17 *  18.08%*        1.16 *  19.18%*        1.17 *  18.18%*        1.16 *  19.08%*        1.18 *  17.58%*
Amean     7         1.43 (   0.00%)        1.16 *  19.26%*        1.16 *  18.86%*        1.17 *  18.56%*        1.16 *  19.16%*        1.19 *  16.57%*        1.15 *  19.36%*        1.15 *  19.36%*
Amean     12        1.44 (   0.00%)        1.16 *  19.44%*        1.16 *  19.44%*        1.17 *  18.75%*        1.16 *  19.25%*        1.18 *  18.06%*        1.16 *  19.15%*        1.16 *  19.44%*
Amean     16        1.46 (   0.00%)        1.16 *  20.37%*        1.16 *  20.37%*        1.16 *  20.47%*        1.16 *  20.37%*        1.17 *  19.59%*        1.17 *  20.08%*        1.16 *  20.37%*
Stddev    1         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 ( -41.42%)        0.05 (-1314.21%)        0.00 ( -29.10%)        0.00 ( -29.10%)        0.01 (-236.65%)        0.02 (-316.33%)
Stddev    3         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 ( -29.10%)        0.01 (-108.17%)        0.03 (-773.69%)        0.01 (-100.00%)        0.09 (-2324.18%)        0.01 (-138.05%)        0.06 (-1378.74%)
Stddev    5         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 ( -99.00%)        0.05 ( -99.00%)        0.02 ( -99.00%)        0.01 ( -99.00%)        0.01 ( -99.00%)        0.01 ( -99.00%)        0.04 ( -99.00%)
Stddev    7         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.01 ( -41.42%)        0.01 (-138.05%)        0.02 (-468.62%)        0.01 (-100.00%)        0.06 (-1600.00%)        0.01 (-108.17%)        0.01 ( -41.42%)
Stddev    12        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 ( 100.00%)        0.00 ( 100.00%)        0.03 (-11031521092846084.00%)        0.00 (-2034518927425100.00%)        0.01 (-4169523056347680.00%)        0.01 (-2228703820443891.00%)        0.00 ( 100.00%)
Stddev    16        0.05 (   0.00%)        0.00 (  92.31%)        0.00 (  92.31%)        0.00 ( 100.00%)        0.00 (  92.31%)        0.01 (  80.64%)        0.01 (  89.12%)        0.00 (  92.31%)
                                 v                      v                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM                     VM
                          VM-v4-HT             VM-v4-noHT                  v4-HT                v4-noHT              v4-csc-HT     v4-csc_stallfix-HT          v4-csc_tim-HT     v4-csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1        1.43 (   0.00%)        1.17 *  18.15%*        1.15 *  19.64%*        1.15 *  19.44%*        1.16 *  19.14%*        1.17 *  18.34%*        1.16 *  18.94%*        1.16 *  18.94%*
Amean     3        1.43 (   0.00%)        1.17 *  18.33%*        1.17 *  18.73%*        1.15 *  19.52%*        1.15 *  19.52%*        1.19 *  16.93%*        1.16 *  19.12%*        1.16 *  19.32%*
Amean     5        1.43 (   0.00%)        1.18 *  17.45%*        1.15 *  19.44%*        1.15 *  19.54%*        1.17 *  18.15%*        1.18 *  17.55%*        1.15 *  19.44%*        1.16 *  19.04%*
Amean     7        1.43 (   0.00%)        1.18 *  17.53%*        1.16 *  19.32%*        1.15 *  19.72%*        1.17 *  18.33%*        1.17 *  18.13%*        1.16 *  18.92%*        1.15 *  19.62%*
Amean     8        1.43 (   0.00%)        1.17 *  18.46%*        1.16 *  19.16%*        1.16 *  18.96%*        1.17 *  18.46%*        1.18 *  17.86%*        1.15 *  19.36%*        1.16 *  19.06%*
Stddev    1        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 (  22.54%)        0.01 (  -9.54%)        0.01 (-119.09%)        0.01 ( -67.33%)        0.01 (-149.00%)        0.01 ( -84.39%)
Stddev    3        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.01 (  12.29%)        0.02 (-105.69%)        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.05 (-515.82%)        0.01 ( -27.10%)        0.01 ( -41.42%)
Stddev    5        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.04 (-700.00%)        0.01 ( -61.25%)        0.01 ( -54.92%)        0.04 (-717.31%)        0.01 ( -84.39%)        0.01 ( -61.25%)        0.01 ( -18.32%)
Stddev    7        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.04 (-390.68%)        0.01 (   3.92%)        0.00 (  51.96%)        0.04 (-366.58%)        0.01 (   0.00%)        0.02 (-151.15%)        0.01 (   3.92%)
Stddev    8        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.00 ( -29.10%)        0.01 (-151.66%)        0.02 (-383.05%)        0.05 (-1100.00%)        0.01 (-108.17%)        0.01 ( -41.42%)        0.01 (-138.05%)
                                  v                      v                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2                   VMx2
                            VMx2-HT              VMx2-noHT                     HT                   noHT                 csc-HT        csc_stallfix-HT             csc_tim-HT        csc_vruntime-HT
Amean     1         1.16 (   0.00%)        1.22 *  -5.80%*        1.54 * -32.84%*        1.22 *  -5.31%*        2.83 (-144.32%)        1.35 * -16.42%*        1.69 * -46.30%*        1.35 * -16.91%*
Amean     3         1.16 (   0.00%)        1.24 *  -6.90%*        1.56 * -34.11%*        1.24 *  -6.53%*        1.89 * -63.05%*        1.95 * -68.35%*        1.67 * -43.84%*        1.33 * -14.41%*
Amean     5         1.17 (   0.00%)        1.21 *  -3.79%*        1.52 * -30.48%*        1.23 *  -5.75%*        1.43 * -22.89%*        1.85 ( -58.51%)        1.71 * -46.88%*        1.35 * -15.91%*
Amean     7         1.15 (   0.00%)        1.23 *  -6.81%*        1.54 * -33.29%*        1.24 *  -7.05%*        1.68 * -45.79%*        1.39 * -20.79%*        2.09 * -80.69%*        1.30 * -12.62%*
Amean     12        1.16 (   0.00%)        1.25 *  -7.25%*        1.69 * -45.09%*        1.22 *  -5.28%*        1.72 * -47.54%*        1.52 * -31.08%*        2.08 * -78.87%*        1.32 * -13.14%*
Amean     16        1.16 (   0.00%)        1.23 *  -6.14%*        1.68 * -44.23%*        1.22 *  -4.67%*        1.80 * -54.91%*        1.37 * -17.44%*        2.18 * -87.10%*        1.28 *  -9.95%*
Stddev    1         0.01 (   0.00%)        0.05 (-569.58%)        0.14 (-1693.97%)        0.02 (-169.26%)        3.19 (-42121.82%)        0.25 (-3271.57%)        0.26 (-3362.06%)        0.09 (-1072.60%)
Stddev    3         0.01 (   0.00%)        0.06 (-664.85%)        0.06 (-630.95%)        0.03 (-259.56%)        0.84 (-10177.51%)        0.98 (-11852.56%)        0.45 (-5404.28%)        0.08 (-845.29%)
Stddev    5         0.00 (   0.00%)        0.02 (-393.96%)        0.17 (-3371.31%)        0.07 (-1423.81%)        0.32 (-6361.11%)        1.04 (-21129.08%)        0.22 (-4383.53%)        0.06 (-1033.14%)
Stddev    7         0.01 (   0.00%)        0.07 (-1234.79%)        0.20 (-3727.10%)        0.08 (-1483.25%)        0.57 (-10594.70%)        0.19 (-3455.98%)        0.30 (-5454.88%)        0.08 (-1400.56%)
Stddev    12        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.08 (-1641.84%)        0.16 (-3078.68%)        0.03 (-524.50%)        0.50 (-10161.87%)        0.08 (-1634.36%)        0.32 (-6423.80%)        0.07 (-1232.67%)
Stddev    16        0.00 (   0.00%)        0.05 (-996.36%)        0.20 (-3958.82%)        0.06 (-1045.43%)        0.60 (-12116.06%)        0.23 (-4642.99%)        0.23 (-4594.04%)        0.05 (-842.34%)

This is all quite bizarre. Judging from these numbers, the benchmark
seems to be no sensitive to HT at all (while, e.g., sysbenchcpu was),
when on baremetal. In VMs, at least in most cases, things are
significantly *faster* with HT off. Which I know is something that can
happen, I just was not expecting it from this workload.

Also, core scheduling is a total disaster on baremetal. And its
behavior in VM is an anti-pattern too.

So, I guess I'll go trying to see if I did something wrong when
configuring or running this particular benchmark. If that is not the
case, then core scheduling has a serious issue when dealing with
threads instead than with processes, I would say.

-- 
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D
http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Virtualization Software Engineer
SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/
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