linux-kernel - Re: KCSAN: data-race in __alloc_file / __alloc

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgnjMEvqHnu_iJcbr_kdFyBQLhYojwv5T7p9F+CHxA9pg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:58:55 -0800
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        syzbot <syzbot+3ef049d50587836c0606@...kaller.appspotmail.com>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@...glegroups.com>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@...il.com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        LKMM Maintainers -- Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>
Subject: Re: KCSAN: data-race in __alloc_file / __alloc_file

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:29 PM Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to solve a real problem: How to tell KCSAN and the compiler
> that we don't care about certain access patterns which result in
> hardware-level races, and how to guarantee that the object code will
> still work correctly when those races occur.  Not telling the compiler
> anything is a head-in-the-sand approach that will be dangerous in the
> long run.

I don't actually know how KCSAN ends up reading the annotations, but
since it's apparently not using the 'volatile' as a marker.

[ Goes off and fetches the thing ]

Ugh, that's just nasty.

Honestly, my preferred model would have been to just add a comment,
and have the reporting tool know to then just ignore it. So something
like

+               // Benign data-race on min_flt
                tsk->min_flt++;
                perf_sw_event(PERF_COUNT_SW_PAGE_FAULTS_MIN, 1, regs, address);

for the case that Eric mentioned - the tool would trigger on
"data-race", and the rest of the comment could/should be for humans.
Without making the code uglier, but giving the potential for a nice
leghibl.e explanation instead of a completely illegible "let's
randomly use WRITE_ONCE() here" or something like that.

Could the KCSAN code be taught to do something like that by simply not
instrumenting it? Or, as mentioned, just have the reporting logic
maybe have a list of those comments (easily generated with some
variation of "git grep -in data-race" or something) and logic to just
ignore any report that comes from a line below that kind of comment?

Because I do not see a pretty way to annotate random things like this
that actually makes the code more legible. The READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE
annotations have not imho improved the code quality.

                 Linus