linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] kcsan: Add Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer infrastructure

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Message-Id: <A74F8151-F5E8-4532-BB67-6CFA32487D26@lca.pw>
Date:   Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:42:26 -0500
From:   Qian Cai <cai@....pw>
To:     Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] kcsan: Add Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer infrastructure



> On Nov 19, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com> wrote:
> 
> Regardless of approach, my guess is that the complexity outweighs any
> benefits this may provide in the end. Not only would a hypothetical
> kernel that combines these be extremely slow, it'd also diminish the
> practical value because testing and finding bugs would also be
> impaired due to performance.

On the other hand, it is valuable for distros to be able to select both for the debug kernel variant. Performance is usually not a major concern over there and could be migrated by other means like selecting powerful systems etc.