linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v10 6/6] x86/split_lock: Enable split lock detection by kernel parameter

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Date:   Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:01:08 -0800
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@...el.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        H Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com>,
        Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 6/6] x86/split_lock: Enable split lock detection by kernel parameter


> On Nov 21, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 09:51:03AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> 
>> Can we really not just change the lock asm to use 32-bit accesses for
>> set_bit(), etc?  Sure, it will fail if the bit index is greater than
>> 2^32, but that seems nuts.
> 
> There are 64bit architectures that do exactly that: Alpha, IA64.
> 
> And because of the byte 'optimization' from x86 we already could not
> rely on word atomicity (we actually play games with multi-bit atomicity
> for PG_waiters and clear_bit_unlock_is_negative_byte).

I read a couple pages of the paper you linked and I didn’t spot what you’re talking about as it refers to x86.  What are the relevant word properties of x86 bitops or the byte optimization?