linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v24 01/12] Linux Random Number Generator

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Date:   Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:51:19 +0800
From:   Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@...il.com>
To:     Stephan Müller <smueller@...onox.de>
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        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v24 01/12] Linux Random Number Generator

Stephan Müller <smueller@...onox.de> wrote:

> In an effort to provide a flexible implementation for a random number
> generator that also ...

As usual, some of your proposals make considerable sense to me &
others do not, at least on first reading. I may have more comments
after reflecting some.

Meanwhile, a couple of things jump out at me:

>  (a) When an interrupt occurs, the high-resolution time stamp is mixed
> into the LFSR. ...
>
>  (b) HID event data like the key stroke or the mouse coordinates are
> mixed into the LFSR. ...
>
>  (c) Device drivers may provide data that is mixed into the LFSR. ...

Why into the LFSR instead of into the entropy pool?

> The LRNG allows the TRNG and secondary DRNG mechanism to be changed
> at runtime.

Why? This strikes me as pointless complication.

> * high performance of interrupt handling code: The LRNG impact on the
> interrupt handling has been reduced to a minimum. On one example
> system, the LRNG interrupt handling code executes within an average
> of 65 cycles whereas the existing /dev/random on the same device
> takes about 97 cycles when measuring the execution time of
> add_interrupt_randomness().

Assuming you do this without sacrificing the input mixing, this
would be worth submitting as a separate patch. Saving cycles
on every interrupt definitely looks worth doing.

> * lockless LFSR to collect raw entropy

This too.