linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] mm/hotplug: Only respect mem= parameter during boot stage

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Message-ID: <20191210125557.GA28917@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>
Date:   Tue, 10 Dec 2019 20:55:57 +0800
From:   Baoquan He <bhe@...hat.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, jgross@...e.com,
        william.kucharski@...cle.com, mingo@...nel.org,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hotplug: Only respect mem= parameter during boot stage

On 12/10/19 at 12:33pm, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 10-12-19 18:43:03, Baoquan He wrote:
> > On 12/10/19 at 11:28am, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 10-12-19 15:24:53, Baoquan He wrote:
> [...]
> > > > But after system bootup, we should be able to hot add/remove any memory
> > > > board. This should not be restricted by a boot-time kernel parameter
> > > > 'mme='. This is what I am trying to fix.
> > > 
> > > This is a simple statement without any actual explanation on why. Why is
> > > hotplug memory special? What is the usecase? Who would want to use mem
> > > parameter and later expect a memory above the restrected area to be
> > > hotplugable?
> > 
> > The why is 'mem=' is used to restrict the amount of system ram during
> > boot. We have two ways to add system memory, one is installing DIMMs
> > before boot, the other is hot adding memory after boot. Without David's 
> > use case, we may need redefine 'mem=' and change its documentation in
> > kernel-parameters.txt, if we don't want to fix it like this. Otherwise,
> > 'mem=' will limit the system's upper system ram always, that is not
> > expected.
> 
> I really do not see why. It seems a pretty consistent behavior to me.
> Because it essentially cut any memory above the given size. If a new
> hotplugable memory fits into that cap then it just shows up. Quite
> contrary I would consider it unexpected that a memory higher than the
> given mem=XYZ is really there. But I do recognize a real usecase
> mentioned elsewhere which beats the consistency argument here because
> all setups where such a restriction would be really important are
> debugging/workaround AFAICS.

All right. There could be me who have this misunderstanding. 

Anyway, I think now we all agree it's only a boot-time restriction on
the system RAM.

Btw, as you said at above, I am confused by the '[KNL,BOOT]', what does
the 'BOOT' mean in the documentation of 'mem='? I checked all parameters
with 'BOOT', still don't get it clearly.

Thanks
Baoquan