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Message-ID: <20191216205833.GB161272@xz-x1>
Date:   Mon, 16 Dec 2019 15:58:33 -0500
From:   Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] smp: Allow smp_call_function_single_async() to insert
 locked csd

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 09:37:05PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:29:25AM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> > This is also true.
> > 
> > Here's the statistics I mentioned:
> > 
> > =================================================
> > 
> > (1) Implemented the same counter mechanism on the caller's:
> > 
> > *** arch/mips/kernel/smp.c:
> > tick_broadcast[713]            smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, csd);
> > *** drivers/cpuidle/coupled.c:
> > cpuidle_coupled_poke[336]      smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, csd);
> > *** kernel/sched/core.c:
> > hrtick_start[298]              smp_call_function_single_async(cpu_of(rq), &rq->hrtick_csd);
> > 
> > (2) Cleared the csd flags before calls:
> > 
> > *** arch/s390/pci/pci_irq.c:
> > zpci_handle_fallback_irq[185]  smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, &cpu_data->csd);
> > *** block/blk-mq.c:
> > __blk_mq_complete_request[622] smp_call_function_single_async(ctx->cpu, &rq->csd);
> > *** block/blk-softirq.c:
> > raise_blk_irq[70]              smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, data);
> > *** drivers/net/ethernet/cavium/liquidio/lio_core.c:
> > liquidio_napi_drv_callback[735] smp_call_function_single_async(droq->cpu_id, csd);
> > 
> > (3) Others:
> > 
> > *** arch/mips/kernel/process.c:
> > raise_backtrace[713]           smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, csd);
> 
> per-cpu csd data, seems perfectly fine usage.

I'm not sure whether I get the point, I just feel like it could still
trigger as long as we do it super fast, before IPI handled,
disregarding whether it's per-cpu csd or not.

> 
> > *** arch/x86/kernel/cpuid.c:
> > cpuid_read[85]                 err = smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, &csd);
> > *** arch/x86/lib/msr-smp.c:
> > rdmsr_safe_on_cpu[182]         err = smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, &csd);
> 
> These two have csd on stack and wait with a completion. seems fine.

Yeh this is true, then I'm confused why they don't use the sync()
helpers..

> 
> > *** include/linux/smp.h:
> > bool[60]                       int smp_call_function_single_async(int cpu, call_single_data_t *csd);
> 
> this is the declaration, your grep went funny
> 
> > *** kernel/debug/debug_core.c:
> > kgdb_roundup_cpus[272]         ret = smp_call_function_single_async(cpu, csd);
> > *** net/core/dev.c:
> > net_rps_send_ipi[5818]         smp_call_function_single_async(remsd->cpu, &remsd->csd);
> 
> Both percpu again.
> 
> > 
> > =================================================
> > 
> > For (1): These probably justify more on that we might want a patch
> >          like this to avoid reimplementing it everywhere.
> 
> I can't quite parse that, but if you're saying we should fix the
> callers, then I agree.
> 
> > For (2): If I read it right, smp_call_function_single_async() is the
> >          only place where we take a call_single_data_t structure
> >          rather than the (smp_call_func_t, void *) tuple.
> 
> That's on purpose; by supplying csd we allow explicit concurrency. If
> you do as proposed here:
> 
> >		I could
> >          miss something important, but otherwise I think it would be
> >          good to use the tuple for smp_call_function_single_async() as
> >          well, then we move call_single_data_t out of global header
> >          but move into smp.c to avoid callers from toucing it (which
> >          could be error-prone).  In other words, IMHO it would be good
> >          to have all these callers fixed.
> 
> Then you could only ever have 1 of then in flight at the same time.
> Which would break things.

Sorry, I think you are right.

> 
> > For (3): I didn't dig, but I think some of them (or future users)
> >          could still suffer from the same issue on retriggering the
> >          WARN_ON... 
> 
> They all seem fine.
> 
> So I'm thinking your patch is good, but please also fix all 1).

Sure.  Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

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