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Message-ID: <CAK7LNASHZ9HsYj+sncDqOBWRV+YoFNTciKOxfeYrA7MtBJ9T7A@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:55:54 +0900
From:   Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>
To:     Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org>
Cc:     Uwe Kleine-König 
        <u.kleine-koenig@...gutronix.de>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.com>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sascha Hauer <kernel@...gutronix.de>,
        kbuild test robot <lkp@...el.com>,
        Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kbuild obj-m directory descend (was: Re: [PATCH] serdev: fix
 builds with CONFIG_SERIAL_DEV_BUS=m)

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 5:18 PM Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:00:15AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 2:23 AM Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> > > The offending patch is broken since it effectively makes
> > > CONFIG_SERIAL_DEV_BUS bool (built-in or disabled), but for some reason
> > > those symbols do not end up in vmlinux (despite being compiled) when you
> > > add a built-in object goal under a directory that was entered using
> > > obj-m.
> > >
> > > That seems like a bug to me and contradicts the kbuild documentation
> > > (3.6):
> > >
> > >         Example:
> > >
> > >         #fs/Makefile
> > >         obj-$(CONFIG_EXT2_FS) += ext2/
> > >
> > >         If CONFIG_EXT2_FS is set to either ‘y’ (built-in) or ‘m’
> > >         (modular) the corresponding obj- variable will be set, and
> > >         kbuild will descend down in the ext2 directory. Kbuild only uses
> > >         this information to decide that it needs to visit the directory,
> > >         it is the Makefile in the subdirectory that specifies what is
> > >         modular and what is built-in.
> > >
> > > I tried adding other targets to obj-y directly and they are also are not
> > > included, seemingly since the directory was entered using obj-m.
> > >
> > > Masahiro or Michal, can you shed some light?
>
> > I saw similar questions in ML in the past.
> > Yes, this is how Kbuild works;
> > Kbuild only links objects in Makefiles visited by obj-y.
> >
> > If you use
> >     obj-m += serdev/
> > all objects in serdev/ are considered as modular.
>
> Well, any objects in serdev/ specified in obj-y would currently be built
> but never included in either built-in.a or any module.

Right.

>
> > I think it is better to make the document
> > clarify this.
>
> Yeah, I don't have a use case for this, but the documentation would need
> to be updated to not have more people look into this.
>
> And at least this behaviour allowed us to catch this bug, but only
> because we had dependent modules that failed to build. I see now that
> you posted a patch adding a general warning about obj-y under obj-m last
> fall, but that was apparently never merged.

This one?

https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1126959/

This patch detected several Makefile/Kconfig bugs,
and it is good.

But, it also turned out to cause false positive warnings
on some architectures.
I thought it was not so easy to fix it.
So, I decided to postpone it.


> But when was this behaviour changed? And was that done on purpose?

No. Not changed at all.

In my understanding, the current behavior has been kept
from the beginning.



> Johan



-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada