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Date:   Thu, 26 Dec 2019 00:31:27 +0530
From:   Bhupesh Sharma <bhsharma@...hat.com>
To:     James Morse <james.morse@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
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        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org,
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        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Steve Capper <steve.capper@....com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
        Dave Anderson <anderson@...hat.com>,
        Kazuhito Hagio <k-hagio@...jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v5 2/5] arm64/crash_core: Export TCR_EL1.T1SZ in
 vmcoreinfo

Hi James,

On 12/12/2019 04:02 PM, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Bhupesh,
> 
> On 29/11/2019 19:59, Bhupesh Sharma wrote:
>> vabits_actual variable on arm64 indicates the actual VA space size,
>> and allows a single binary to support both 48-bit and 52-bit VA
>> spaces.
>>
>> If the ARMv8.2-LVA optional feature is present, and we are running
>> with a 64KB page size; then it is possible to use 52-bits of address
>> space for both userspace and kernel addresses. However, any kernel
>> binary that supports 52-bit must also be able to fall back to 48-bit
>> at early boot time if the hardware feature is not present.
>>
>> Since TCR_EL1.T1SZ indicates the size offset of the memory region
>> addressed by TTBR1_EL1 (and hence can be used for determining the
>> vabits_actual value) it makes more sense to export the same in
>> vmcoreinfo rather than vabits_actual variable, as the name of the
>> variable can change in future kernel versions, but the architectural
>> constructs like TCR_EL1.T1SZ can be used better to indicate intended
>> specific fields to user-space.
>>
>> User-space utilities like makedumpfile and crash-utility, need to
>> read/write this value from/to vmcoreinfo
> 
> (write?)

Yes, also write so that the vmcoreinfo from an (crashing) arm64 system 
can be used for analysis of the root-cause of panic/crash on say an 
x86_64 host using utilities like crash-utility/gdb.

>> for determining if a virtual address lies in the linear map range.
> 
> I think this is a fragile example. The debugger shouldn't need to know this.

Well that the current user-space utility design, so I am not sure we can 
tweak that too much.

>> The user-space computation for determining whether an address lies in
>> the linear map range is the same as we have in kernel-space:
>>
>>    #define __is_lm_address(addr)	(!(((u64)addr) & BIT(vabits_actual - 1)))
> 
> This was changed with 14c127c957c1 ("arm64: mm: Flip kernel VA space"). If user-space
> tools rely on 'knowing' the kernel memory layout, they must have to constantly be fixed
> and updated. This is a poor argument for adding this to something that ends up as ABI.

See above. The user-space has to rely on some ABI/guaranteed 
hardware-symbols which can be used for 'determining' the kernel memory 
layout.

> I think a better argument is walking the kernel page tables from the core dump.
> Core code's vmcoreinfo exports the location of the kernel page tables, but in the example
> above you can't walk them without knowing how T1SZ was configured.

Sure, both makedumpfile and crash-utility (which walks the kernel page 
tables from the core dump) use this (and similar) information currently 
in the user-space.

> On older kernels, user-space that needs this would have to assume the value it computes
> from VA_BITs (also in vmcoreinfo) is the value in use.

Yes, backward compatibility has been handled in the user-space already.

> ---%<---
>> I have sent out user-space patches for makedumpfile and crash-utility
>> to add features for obtaining vabits_actual value from TCR_EL1.T1SZ (see
>> [0] and [1]).
>>
>> Akashi reported that he was able to use this patchset and the user-space
>> changes to get user-space working fine with the 52-bit kernel VA
>> changes (see [2]).
>>
>> [0]. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2019-November/023966.html
>> [1]. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2019-November/024006.html
>> [2]. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2019-November/023992.html
> ---%<---
> 
> This probably belongs in the cover letter instead of the commit log.

Ok.

> (From-memory: one of vmcore/kcore is virtually addressed, the other physically. Does this
> fix your poblem in both cases?)
> 
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/crash_core.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/crash_core.c
>> index ca4c3e12d8c5..f78310ba65ea 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/crash_core.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/crash_core.c
>> @@ -7,6 +7,13 @@
>>   #include <linux/crash_core.h>
>>   #include <asm/memory.h>
> 
> You need to include asm/sysreg.h for read_sysreg(), and asm/pgtable-hwdef.h for the macros
> you added.

Ok. Will check as I did not get any compilation errors without the same 
and build-bot also did not raise a flag for the missing include files.

>> +static inline u64 get_tcr_el1_t1sz(void);

> Why do you need to do this?

Without this I was getting a missing declaration error, while compiling 
the code.

>> +static inline u64 get_tcr_el1_t1sz(void)
>> +{
>> +	return (read_sysreg(tcr_el1) & TCR_T1SZ_MASK) >> TCR_T1SZ_OFFSET;
>> +}
> 
> (We don't modify this one, and its always the same one very CPU, so this is fine.
> This function is only called once when the stringy vmcoreinfo elf_note is created...)

Right.

>>   void arch_crash_save_vmcoreinfo(void)
>>   {
>>   	VMCOREINFO_NUMBER(VA_BITS);
>> @@ -15,5 +22,7 @@ void arch_crash_save_vmcoreinfo(void)
>>   						kimage_voffset);
>>   	vmcoreinfo_append_str("NUMBER(PHYS_OFFSET)=0x%llx\n",
>>   						PHYS_OFFSET);
>> +	vmcoreinfo_append_str("NUMBER(tcr_el1_t1sz)=0x%llx\n",
>> +						get_tcr_el1_t1sz());
> 
> You document the name as being upper-case.
> The two values either values either side are upper-case.
Ok, will fix this in v6. Thanks for your inputs.

>>   	vmcoreinfo_append_str("KERNELOFFSET=%lx\n", kaslr_offset());
>>   }

Thanks,
Bhupesh

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