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Message-ID: <CANpmjNP=8cfqgXkz7f8D6STTn1-2h9qzUery4qMHeTTeNJOdxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:42:16 +0100
From:   Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
Cc:     Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -rcu 0/2] kcsan: Improvements to reporting

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 18:31, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Marco Elver wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 17:27, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 04:23:20PM +0100, Marco Elver wrote:
> > > > Improvements to KCSAN data race reporting:
> > > > 1. Show if access is marked (*_ONCE, atomic, etc.).
> > > > 2. Rate limit reporting to avoid spamming console.
> > > >
> > > > Marco Elver (2):
> > > >   kcsan: Show full access type in report
> > > >   kcsan: Rate-limit reporting per data races
> > >
> > > Queued and pushed, thank you!  I edited the commit logs a bit, so could
> > > you please check to make sure that I didn't mess anything up?
> >
> > Looks good to me, thank you.
> >
> > > At some point, boot-time-allocated per-CPU arrays might be needed to
> > > avoid contention on large systems, but one step at a time.  ;-)
> >
> > I certainly hope the rate of fixing/avoiding data races will not be
> > eclipsed by the rate at which new ones are introduced. :-)
>
> Me too!
>
> However, on a large system, duplicate reports might happen quite
> frequently, which might cause slowdowns given the single global
> array.  Or maybe not -- I guess we will find out soon enough. ;-)
>
> But I must confess that I am missing how concurrent access to the
> report_times[] array is handled.  I would have expected that
> rate_limit_report() would choose a random starting entry and
> search circularly.  And I would expect that the code at the end
> of that function would instead look something like this:
>
>         if (ktime_before(oldtime, invalid_before) &&
>             cmpxchg(&use_entry->time, oldtime, now) == oldtime) {
>                 use_entry->frame1 = frame1;
>                 use_entry->frame2 = frame2;
>         } else {
>                 // Too bad, next duplicate report won't be suppressed.
>         }
>
> Where "oldtime" is captured from the entry during the scan, and from the
> first entry scanned.  This cmpxchg() approach is of course vulnerable
> to the ->frame1 and ->frame2 assignments taking more than three seconds
> (by default), but if that becomes a problem, a WARN_ON() could be added:
>
>         if (ktime_before(oldtime, invalid_before) &&
>             cmpxchg(&use_entry->time, oldtime, now) == oldtime) {
>                 use_entry->frame1 = frame1;
>                 use_entry->frame2 = frame2;
>                 WARN_ON_ONCE(use_entry->time != now);
>         } else {
>                 // Too bad, next duplicate report won't be suppressed.
>         }
>
> So what am I missing here?

Ah right, sorry, I should have clarified or commented in the code that
all of this is happening under 'report_lock' (taken in prepare_report,
held in print_report->rate_limit_report, released in release_report).
That also means that any optimization here won't matter until
report_lock is removed.

Thanks,
-- Marco

>                                                         Thanx, Paul
>
> > Thanks,
> > -- Marco
> >
> > >                                                         Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > > >  kernel/kcsan/core.c   |  15 +++--
> > > >  kernel/kcsan/kcsan.h  |   2 +-
> > > >  kernel/kcsan/report.c | 153 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> > > >  lib/Kconfig.kcsan     |  10 +++
> > > >  4 files changed, 148 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 2.25.0.rc1.283.g88dfdc4193-goog
> > > >
> > >
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