linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH V2 01/12] fs/stat: Define DAX statx attribute

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:05:00 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>
Cc:     Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-xfs <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 01/12] fs/stat: Define DAX statx attribute

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:39 PM Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@...cle.com> wrote:
[..]
> >         attempts to minimize software cache effects for both I/O and
> >         memory mappings of this file.  It requires a file system which
> >         has been configured to support DAX.
> >
> >         DAX generally assumes all accesses are via cpu load / store
> >         instructions which can minimize overhead for small accesses, but
> >         may adversely affect cpu utilization for large transfers.
> >
> >         File I/O is done directly to/from user-space buffers and memory
> >         mapped I/O may be performed with direct memory mappings that
> >         bypass kernel page cache.
> >
> >         While the DAX property tends to result in data being transferred
> >         synchronously, it does not give the same guarantees of
> >         synchronous I/O where data and the necessary metadata are
> >         transferred together.
>
> (I'm frankly not sure that synchronous I/O actually guarantees that the
> metadata has hit stable storage...)

Oh? That text was motivated by the open(2) man page description of O_SYNC.