linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] iommu: Per-group default domain type

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Message-ID: <f417cd0b-1bf7-7da2-3a64-b8b74b03da02@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:43:52 +0800
From:   Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>
To:     John Garry <john.garry@...wei.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
Cc:     baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com, kevin.tian@...el.com,
        ashok.raj@...el.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org, jacob.jun.pan@...el.com,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] iommu: Per-group default domain type

Hi John,

On 1/20/20 5:44 PM, John Garry wrote:
> On 01/01/2020 05:26, Lu Baolu wrote:
>> An IOMMU group represents the smallest set of devices that are considered
>> to be isolated. All devices belonging to an IOMMU group share a default
>> domain for DMA APIs. There are two types of default domain: 
>> IOMMU_DOMAIN_DMA
>> and IOMMU_DOMAIN_IDENTITY. The former means IOMMU translation, while the
>> latter means IOMMU by-pass.
>>
>> Currently, the default domain type for the IOMMU groups is determined
>> globally. All IOMMU groups use a single default domain type. The global
>> default domain type can be adjusted by kernel build configuration or
>> kernel parameters.
>>
>> More and more users are looking forward to a fine grained default domain
>> type. For example, with the global default domain type set to 
>> translation,
>> the OEM verndors or end users might want some trusted and fast-speed 
>> devices
>> to bypass IOMMU for performance gains. On the other hand, with global
>> default domain type set to by-pass, some devices with limited system
>> memory addressing capability might want IOMMU translation to remove the
>> bounce buffer overhead.
> 
> Hi Lu Baolu,
> 
> Do you think that it would be a more common usecase to want 
> kernel-managed devices to be passthrough for performance reasons and 
> some select devices to be in DMA domain, like those with limited address 
> cap or whose drivers request huge amounts of memory?
> 
> I just think it would be more manageable to set kernel commandline 
> parameters for this, i.e. those select few which want DMA domain.
>

It's just two sides of a coin. Currently, iommu subsystem make DMA
domain by default, that's the reason why I selected to let user set
which devices are willing to use identity domains.


> Thanks,
> John

Best regards,
baolu