linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus

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Message-ID: <20200121091636-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:17:45 -0500
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...lanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:05:04PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:15:43AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > This sounds more flexible e.g driver may choose to implement static mapping
> > > one through commit. But a question here, it looks to me this still requires
> > > the DMA to be synced with at least commit here. Otherwise device may get DMA
> > > fault? Or device is expected to be paused DMA during begin?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > 
> > For example, commit might switch one set of tables for another,
> > without need to pause DMA.
> 
> I'm not aware of any hardware that can do something like this
> completely atomically..

FWIW VTD can do this atomically.

> Any mapping change API has to be based around add/remove regions
> without any active DMA (ie active DMA is a guest error the guest can
> be crashed if it does this)
> 
> Jason

Right, lots of cases are well served by only changing parts of
mapping that aren't in active use. Memory hotplug is such a case.
That's not the same as a completely static mapping.

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