linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus

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Message-ID: <d0f5e232-0649-4863-4b8d-13875d1a9e26@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:36:10 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@...lanox.com>,
        "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus


On 2020/1/21 下午7:09, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> Tuesday, January 21, 2020 10:35 AM, Jason Wang:
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
>>
>>
>> On 2020/1/21 下午4:15, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 04:00:38PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2020/1/21 下午1:47, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:00:57PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020/1/21 上午1:49, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 04:43:53PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is similar to the design of platform IOMMU part of
>>>>>>>> vhost-vdpa. We decide to send diffs to platform IOMMU there. If
>>>>>>>> it's ok to do that in driver, we can replace set_map with incremental
>> API like map()/unmap().
>>>>>>>> Then driver need to maintain rbtree itself.
>>>>>>> I think we really need to see two modes, one where there is a
>>>>>>> fixed translation without dynamic vIOMMU driven changes and one
>>>>>>> that supports vIOMMU.
>>>>>> I think in this case, you meant the method proposed by Shahaf that
>>>>>> sends diffs of "fixed translation" to device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be kind of tricky to deal with the following case for example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> old map [4G, 16G) new map [4G, 8G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) flush [4G, 16G)
>>>>>> 2) add [4G, 8G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There could be a window between 1) and 2).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It requires the IOMMU that can do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) remove [8G, 16G)
>>>>>> 2) flush [8G, 16G)
>>>>>> 3) change [4G, 8G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ....
>>>>> Basically what I had in mind is something like qemu memory api
>>>>>
>>>>> 0. begin
>>>>> 1. remove [8G, 16G)
>>>>> 2. add [4G, 8G)
>>>>> 3. commit
>>>> This sounds more flexible e.g driver may choose to implement static
>>>> mapping one through commit. But a question here, it looks to me this
>>>> still requires the DMA to be synced with at least commit here.
>>>> Otherwise device may get DMA fault? Or device is expected to be paused
>> DMA during begin?
>>>> Thanks
>>> For example, commit might switch one set of tables for another,
>>> without need to pause DMA.
>> Yes, I think that works but need confirmation from Shahaf or Jason.
>  From my side, as I wrote, I would like to see the suggested function prototype along w/ the definition of the expectation from driver upon calling those.
> It is not 100% clear to me what should be the outcome of remove/flush/change/commit


Right, I can do this in next version after the discussion is converged.

Thanks


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