Message-ID: <87lfpg5j4b.fsf@kernel.org>
Date:   Thu, 06 Feb 2020 08:23:48 +0200
From:   Felipe Balbi <balbi@...nel.org>
To:     John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>
Cc:     "Yang\, Fei" <fei.yang@...el.com>,
        Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@...labora.com>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ux.intel.com>,
        Thinh Nguyen <thinhn@...opsys.com>,
        Tejas Joglekar <tejas.joglekar@...opsys.com>,
        Jack Pham <jackp@...eaurora.org>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Linux USB List <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
        stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Avoiding DWC3 transfer stalls/hangs when using adb over f_fs


Hi,

John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org> writes:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:46 AM Felipe Balbi <balbi@...nel.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Since ~4.20, when the functionfs gadget enabled scatter-gather
>> >>>>> support, we have seen problems with adb connections stalling and
>> >>>>> stopping to function on hardware with dwc3 usb controllers.
>> >>>>> Specifically, HiKey960, Dragonboard 845c, and Pixel3 devices.
> ...
>> >>
>> >> I'm pretty sure this should be solved at the DMA API level, just want to confirm.
>> >
>> > I have sent you the tracepoints long time ago. Also my analysis of the
>> > problem (BTW, I don't think the tracepoints helped much). It's
>> > basically a logic problem in function dwc3_gadget_ep_reclaim_trb_sg().
>>
>> AFAICT, this is caused by DMA API merging pages together when map an
>> sglist for DMA. While doing that, it does *not* move the SG_END flag
>> which sg_is_last() checks.
>>
>> I consider that an overlook on the DMA API, wouldn't you? Why should DMA
>> API users care if pages were merged or not while mapping the sglist? We
>> have for_each_sg() and sg_is_last() for a reason.
>>
>
> From an initial look, I agree this is pretty confusing.   dma_map_sg()
> can coalesce entries in the sg list, modifying the sg entires
> themselves, however, in doing so it doesn't modify the number of
> entries in the sglist (nor the end state bit).  That's pretty subtle!
>
> My initial naive attempt to fix the dma-iommu path to set the end bit
> at the tail of __finalize_sg() which does the sg entry modifications,
> only caused trouble elsewhere, as there's plenty of logic that expects
> the number of entries to not change, so having sg_next() return NULL
> before that point results in lots of null pointer traversals.
>
> Further, looking at the history, while apparently quirky, this has
> been the documented behavior in DMA-API.txt for over almost 14 years
> (at least).  It clearly states that that dma_map_api can return fewer
> mapped entries then sg entries, and one should loop only that many
> times (for_each_sg() having a max number of entries to iterate over
> seems specifically for this purpose).  Additionally, it says one must
> preserve the original number of entries (not # mapped entries) for
> dma_unmap_sg().
>
> So I'm not sure that sg_is_last() is really valid for iterating on
> mapped sg lists.
>
> Should it be? Probably (at least with my unfamiliar eyes), but
> sg_is_last() has been around for almost as long coexisting with this
> behavioral quirk, so I'm also not sure this is the best hill for the
> dwc3 driver to die on. :)
>
> The fix here:
>   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200122222645.38805-3-john.stultz@linaro.org/
> Or maybe the slightly cleaner varient here:
>   https://git.linaro.org/people/john.stultz/android-dev.git/commit/?h=dev/db845c-mainline-WIP&id=61a5816aa71ec719e77df9f2260dbbf6bcec7c99

in that case, we don't need to use sg_is_last() at all, since i will
always encode the last entry in the list.

> seems like it would correctly address things following the
> documentation and avoid the failures we're seeing.
>
> As to if dma_map_sg() should fixup the state bits or properly shrink
> the sg list when it coalesces entries, that seems like it would be a
> much more intrusive change across quite a bit of the kernel that was
> written to follow the documented method. So my confidence that such a
> change would make it upstream in a reasonable amount of time isn't
> very high, and it seems like a bad idea to block the driver from
> working properly in the meantime.
>
> Pulling in Christoph and Jens as I suspect they have more context on
> this, and maybe can explain thats its not so quirky with the right
> perspective?
>
> Thoughts? Maybe there is an easier way to make it less quirky then
> what I imagine?

it just seems very counter-intuitive to me that DMA api can coalesce
entries but they're actually still there and drivers have to cope with
this behavior.

-- 
balbi

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