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Message-ID: <CAKwvOd=p18z8yxfuOBgpOheZOUzmgAfzvVD-5Kuz=VqKCUpOKw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:09:24 -0800
From:   Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
To:     Philip Li <philip.li@...el.com>
Cc:     Chen Rong <rong.a.chen@...el.com>,
        clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [tip: core/objtool] objtool: Fail the kernel build on fatal errors

(everyone else to bcc)

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:44 PM Philip Li <philip.li@...el.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 02:43:39PM -0800, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:58 AM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 01:10:26AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> writes:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:47:38PM -0000, tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > > >> The following commit has been merged into the core/objtool branch of tip:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Commit-ID:     644592d328370af4b3e027b7b1ae9f81613782d8
> > > > >> Gitweb:        https://git.kernel.org/tip/644592d328370af4b3e027b7b1ae9f81613782d8
> > > > >> Author:        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
> > > > >> AuthorDate:    Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:32:38 -06:00
> > > > >> Committer:     Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>
> > > > >> CommitterDate: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:27:03 +01:00
> > > > >>
> > > > >> objtool: Fail the kernel build on fatal errors
> > > > >>
> > > > >> When objtool encounters a fatal error, it usually means the binary is
> > > > >> corrupt or otherwise broken in some way.  Up until now, such errors were
> > > > >> just treated as warnings which didn't fail the kernel build.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> However, objtool is now stable enough that if a fatal error is
> > > > >> discovered, it most likely means something is seriously wrong and it
> > > > >> should fail the kernel build.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Note that this doesn't apply to "normal" objtool warnings; only fatal
> > > > >> ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clang still has some toolchain issues which need to be sorted out, so
> > > > > upgrading the fatal errors is causing their CI to fail.
> > > >
> > > > Good. Last time we made it fail they just fixed their stuff.
> > > >
> > > > > So I think we need to drop this one for now.
> > > >
> > > > Why? It's our decision to define which level of toolchain brokeness is
> > > > tolerable.
> > > >
> > > > > Boris, are you able to just drop it or should I send a revert?
> > > >
> > > > I really want to see a revert which has a proper justification why the
> > > > issues of clang are tolerable along with a clear statement when this
> > > > fatal error will come back. And 'when' means a date, not 'when clang is
> > > > fixed'.
> > >
> > > Fair enough.  The root cause was actually a bug in binutils which gets
> > > triggered by a new clang feature.  So instead of reverting the above
> > > patch, I think I've figured out a way to work around the binutils bug,
> > > while also improving objtool at the same time (win-win).
> > >
> > > The binutils bug will be fixed in binutils 2.35.
> > >
> > > BTW, to be fair, this was less "Clang has issues" and more "Josh is
> > > lazy".  I didn't test the patch with Clang -- I tend to rely on 0-day
> > > bot reports because I don't have the bandwidth to test the
> > > kernel/config/toolchain combinations.  Nick tells me Clang will soon be
> > > integrated with the 0-day bot, which should help prevent this type of
> > > thing in the future.
> >
> > Hi Rong, Philip,
> > Do you have any status updates on turning on the 0day bot emails to
> > the patch authors in production?  It's been quite handy in helping us
> > find issues, for the private mails we've been triaging daily.
> Hi Nick, this is on our schedule in a new 2-3 weeks, sorry not to update
> your in another mail loop earlier.

No worries.

>
> What I plan to do is to cc you for the clang reports when 0-day ci sends
> to kernel patch author. If you notice something may be related to clang (since
> we always integrate newer clang version), you can help filter it out. How
> do you think?

If you would kindly cc our mailing list "clang-built-linux
<clang-built-linux@...glegroups.com>" we'd be happy to continue to
triage and provide suggestions.  That level of indirection better
allows us to deal with subscriptions and change of email addresses
without having to disturb you.

-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

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