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Date:   Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:20:05 +0530
From:   Parth Shah <parth@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     chris hyser <chris.hyser@...cle.com>, vincent.guittot@...aro.org,
        patrick.bellasi@...bug.net, valentin.schneider@....com,
        dhaval.giani@...cle.com, dietmar.eggemann@....com
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, peterz@...radead.org,
        mingo@...hat.com, qais.yousef@....com, pavel@....cz,
        qperret@...rret.net, David.Laight@...LAB.COM, pjt@...gle.com,
        tj@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] Introduce per-task latency_nice for scheduler
 hints



On 2/20/20 2:04 PM, Parth Shah wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/19/20 11:53 PM, chris hyser wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/20 9:15 AM, chris hyser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/19/20 5:09 AM, Parth Shah wrote:
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> On 2/19/20 4:30 AM, chris hyser wrote:
>>>>> On 2/17/20 3:57 AM, Parth Shah wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/16/20 5:32 PM, Parth Shah wrote:
>>>>>>> This is the 3rd revision of the patch set to introduce
>>>>>>> latency_{nice/tolerance} as a per task attribute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The previous version can be found at:
>>>>>>> v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/11/25/151
>>>>>>> v2: https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/12/8/10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changes in this revision are:
>>>>>>> v2 -> v3:
>>>>>>> - This series changes the longer attribute name to "latency_nice" as per
>>>>>>>     the comment from Dietmar Eggemann
>>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/12/5/394
>>>>>>> v1 -> v2:
>>>>>>> - Addressed comments from Qais Yousef
>>>>>>> - As per suggestion from Dietmar, moved content from newly created
>>>>>>>     include/linux/sched/latency_tolerance.h to kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>>>>> - Extend sched_setattr() to support latency_tolerance in tools
>>>>>>> headers UAPI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Introduction:
>>>>>>> ==============
>>>>>>> This patch series introduces a new per-task attribute latency_nice to
>>>>>>> provide the scheduler hints about the latency requirements of the
>>>>>>> task [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Latency_nice is a ranged attribute of a task with the value ranging
>>>>>>> from [-20, 19] both inclusive which makes it align with the task nice
>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The value should provide scheduler hints about the relative latency
>>>>>>> requirements of tasks, meaning the task with "latency_nice = -20"
>>>>>>> should have lower latency requirements than compared to those tasks with
>>>>>>> higher values. Similarly a task with "latency_nice = 19" can have higher
>>>>>>> latency and hence such tasks may not care much about latency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The default value is set to 0. The usecases discussed below can use this
>>>>>>> range of [-20, 19] for latency_nice for the specific purpose. This
>>>>>>> patch does not implement any use cases for such attribute so that any
>>>>>>> change in naming or range does not affect much to the other (future)
>>>>>>> patches using this. The actual use of latency_nice during task wakeup
>>>>>>> and load-balancing is yet to be coded for each of those usecases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As per my view, this defined attribute can be used in following ways
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> some of the usecases:
>>>>>>> 1 Reduce search scan time for select_idle_cpu():
>>>>>>> - Reduce search scans for finding idle CPU for a waking task with lower
>>>>>>>     latency_nice values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 TurboSched:
>>>>>>> - Classify the tasks with higher latency_nice values as a small
>>>>>>>     background task given that its historic utilization is very low, for
>>>>>>>     which the scheduler can search for more number of cores to do task
>>>>>>>     packing.  A task with a latency_nice >= some_threshold (e.g, == 19)
>>>>>>>     and util <= 12.5% can be background tasks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 Optimize AVX512 based workload:
>>>>>>> - Bias scheduler to not put a task having (latency_nice == -20) on a
>>>>>>>     core occupying AVX512 based workload.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Series Organization:
>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>> - Patch 1: Add new attribute latency_nice to task_struct.
>>>>>>> - Patch 2: Clone parent task's attribute to the child task on fork
>>>>>>> - Patch 3: Add support for sched_{set,get}attr syscall to modify
>>>>>>>              latency_nice of the task
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The patch series can be applied on tip/sched/core at the
>>>>>>> commit 804d402fb6f6 ("sched/rt: Make RT capacity-aware")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References:
>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>> [1]. Usecases for the per-task latency-nice attribute,
>>>>>>>        https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/30/215
>>>>>>> [2]. Task Latency-nice, "Subhra Mazumdar",
>>>>>>>        https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/8/30/829
>>>>>>> [3]. Introduce per-task latency_tolerance for scheduler hints,
>>>>>>>        https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/12/8/10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Parth Shah (3):
>>>>>>>     sched: Introduce latency-nice as a per-task attribute
>>>>>>>     sched/core: Propagate parent task's latency requirements to the
>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>       task
>>>>>>>     sched: Allow sched_{get,set}attr to change latency_nice of the task
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    include/linux/sched.h            |  1 +
>>>>>>>    include/uapi/linux/sched.h       |  4 +++-
>>>>>>>    include/uapi/linux/sched/types.h | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>    kernel/sched/core.c              | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>    kernel/sched/sched.h             | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>    tools/include/uapi/linux/sched.h |  4 +++-
>>>>>>>    6 files changed, 65 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its been a long time and few revisions since the beginning of the
>>>>>> discussion around the latency-nice. Hence thought of asking if there
>>>>>> is/are
>>>>>> any further work that needs to be done for adding latency-nice
>>>>>> attribute or
>>>>>> am I missing any piece in here?
>>>>>
>>>>> All, I was asked to take a look at the original latency_nice patchset.
>>>>> First, to clarify objectives, Oracle is not interested in trading
>>>>> throughput for latency. What we found is that the DB has specific tasks
>>>>> which do very little but need to do this as absolutely quickly as
>>>>> possible,
>>>>> ie extreme latency sensitivity. Second, the key to latency reduction in
>>>>> the
>>>>> task wakeup path seems to be limiting variations of "idle cpu" search. The
>>>>> latter particularly interests me as an example of "platform size based
>>>>> latency" which I believe to be important given all the varying size VMs
>>>>> and
>>>>> containers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Parth, I've been using your v3 patchset as the basis of an investigation
>>>>> into the measurable effects of short-circuiting this search. I'm not quite
>>>>> ready to put anything out, but the patchset is working well. The only
>>>>
>>>> That's a good news as you are able to get a usecase of this patch-set.
>>>>
>>>>> feedback I have is that currently non-root can set the value negative
>>>>> which
>>>>> is inconsistent with 'nice' and I would think a security hole.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would assume you mean 'latency_nice' here.
>>>>
>>>>  From my testing, I was not able to set values for any root owned task's
>>>> latency_nice value by the non-root user. Also, my patch-set just piggybacks
>>>> on the already existing sched_setattr syscall and hence it should not allow
>>>> non-root user to do any modifications. Can you confirm this by changing
>>>> nice (renice) value of a root task from non-root user.
>>>>
>>>> I have done the sanity check in the code and thinking where it could
>>>> possibly have gone wrong. So, can you please specify what values were you
>>>> able to set outside the [-20, 19] range?
>>>
>>> The checks prevent being outside that range. But negative numbers -20 to
>>> -1 did not need root. Let me dig some more. I verified this explicitly
>>> before sending the email so something is up.
>>
>> I went digging. This is absolutely repeatable. I checked that I do not
>> unknowingly have CAP_SYS_NICE as a user. So first, are we tying
>> latency_nice to CAP_SYS_NICE? Seems like a reasonable thing, but not sure I
>> saw this stated anywhere. Second, the only capability checked in
>> __sched_setscheduler() in the patch I have is CAP_SYS_NICE and those checks
>> will not return a -EPERM for a negative latency_tolerance (in the code, aka
>> latency_nice). Do I have the correct version of the code? Am I missing
>> something?
> 
> You are right. I have not added permission checks for setting the
> latency_nice value. For the task_nice, non-root user has no permission to
> set the value lower than the current value which is not the case with the
> latency_nice.
> 
> In order to align with the permission checks like task_nice, I will add the
> check similar to task_nice and send out the v4 of the series soon.
> 
> 
> Thanks for pointing out.
> - Parth
> 

The below diff works out well enough in-order to align permission checks
with NICE.

diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index 2bfcff5623f9..ef4a397c9170 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -4878,6 +4878,10 @@ static int __sched_setscheduler(struct task_struct *p,
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (attr->sched_latency_nice < MIN_LATENCY_NICE)
                        return -EINVAL;
+               /* Use the same security checks as NICE */
+               if (attr->sched_latency_nice < p->latency_nice &&
+                   !can_nice(p, attr->sched_latency_nice))
+                       return -EPERM;
        }

        if (pi)

With the above in effect,
A non-root user can only increase the value upto +19, and once increased
cannot be decreased. e.g., a user once sets the value latency_nice = 19,
the same user cannot set the value latency_nice = 18. This is the same
effect as with NICE.

Is such permission checks required?

Unlike NICE, we are going to use latency_nice for scheduler hints only, and
so won't it make more sense to allow a user to increase/decrease the values
of their owned tasks?

- Parth

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