linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form VIRTIO_F_IOMMU

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Message-ID: <426e6972-0565-c931-e171-da0f58fbf856@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:22:26 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     Halil Pasic <pasic@...ux.ibm.com>,
        "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:     linux-s390@...r.kernel.org,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
        Janosch Frank <frankja@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>,
        Ram Pai <linuxram@...ibm.com>,
        Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.ibm.com>,
        David Gibson <david@...son.dropbear.id.au>,
        "Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@....com>,
        Michael Mueller <mimu@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form
 VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM


On 2020/2/21 上午12:06, Halil Pasic wrote:
> Currently if one intends to run a memory protection enabled VM with
> virtio devices and linux as the guest OS, one needs to specify the
> VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM flag for each virtio device to make the guest
> linux use the DMA API, which in turn handles the memory
> encryption/protection stuff if the guest decides to turn itself into
> a protected one. This however makes no sense due to multiple reasons:
> * The device is not changed by the fact that the guest RAM is
> protected. The so called IOMMU bypass quirk is not affected.
> * This usage is not congruent with  standardised semantics of
> VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM. Guest memory protected is an orthogonal reason
> for using DMA API in virtio (orthogonal with respect to what is
> expressed by VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM).
>
> This series aims to decouple 'have to use DMA API because my (guest) RAM
> is protected' and 'have to use DMA API because the device told me
> VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM'.
>
> Please find more detailed explanations about the conceptual aspects in
> the individual patches. There is however also a very practical problem
> that is addressed by this series.
>
> For vhost-net the feature VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM has the following side
> effect The vhost code assumes it the addresses on the virtio descriptor
> ring are not guest physical addresses but iova's, and insists on doing a
> translation of these regardless of what transport is used (e.g. whether
> we emulate a PCI or a CCW device). (For details see commit 6b1e6cc7855b
> "vhost: new device IOTLB API".) On s390 this results in severe
> performance degradation (c.a. factor 10).


Do you see a consistent degradation on the performance, or it only 
happen when for during the beginning of the test?


> BTW with ccw I/O there is
> (architecturally) no IOMMU, so the whole address translation makes no
> sense in the context of virtio-ccw.


I suspect we can do optimization in qemu side.

E.g send memtable entry via IOTLB API when vIOMMU is not enabled.

If this makes sense, I can draft patch to see if there's any difference.

Thanks


>
> Halil Pasic (2):
>    mm: move force_dma_unencrypted() to mem_encrypt.h
>    virtio: let virtio use DMA API when guest RAM is protected
>
>   drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c |  3 +++
>   include/linux/dma-direct.h   |  9 ---------
>   include/linux/mem_encrypt.h  | 10 ++++++++++
>   3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>
>
> base-commit: ca7e1fd1026c5af6a533b4b5447e1d2f153e28f2