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Message-ID: <20200224024641-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:48:59 -0500
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@...ux.ibm.com>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org,
virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@...ux.ibm.com>,
Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@...ux.ibm.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>,
Ram Pai <linuxram@...ibm.com>,
Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.ibm.com>,
David Gibson <david@...son.dropbear.id.au>,
"Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@....com>,
Michael Mueller <mimu@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form
VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 02:45:03PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2020/2/24 下午2:06, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:01:57PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2020/2/21 下午10:56, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:22:26 +0800
> > > > Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2020/2/21 上午12:06, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > > > > > Currently if one intends to run a memory protection enabled VM with
> > > > > > virtio devices and linux as the guest OS, one needs to specify the
> > > > > > VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM flag for each virtio device to make the guest
> > > > > > linux use the DMA API, which in turn handles the memory
> > > > > > encryption/protection stuff if the guest decides to turn itself into
> > > > > > a protected one. This however makes no sense due to multiple reasons:
> > > > > > * The device is not changed by the fact that the guest RAM is
> > > > > > protected. The so called IOMMU bypass quirk is not affected.
> > > > > > * This usage is not congruent with standardised semantics of
> > > > > > VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM. Guest memory protected is an orthogonal reason
> > > > > > for using DMA API in virtio (orthogonal with respect to what is
> > > > > > expressed by VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This series aims to decouple 'have to use DMA API because my (guest) RAM
> > > > > > is protected' and 'have to use DMA API because the device told me
> > > > > > VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please find more detailed explanations about the conceptual aspects in
> > > > > > the individual patches. There is however also a very practical problem
> > > > > > that is addressed by this series.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For vhost-net the feature VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM has the following side
> > > > > > effect The vhost code assumes it the addresses on the virtio descriptor
> > > > > > ring are not guest physical addresses but iova's, and insists on doing a
> > > > > > translation of these regardless of what transport is used (e.g. whether
> > > > > > we emulate a PCI or a CCW device). (For details see commit 6b1e6cc7855b
> > > > > > "vhost: new device IOTLB API".) On s390 this results in severe
> > > > > > performance degradation (c.a. factor 10).
> > > > > Do you see a consistent degradation on the performance, or it only
> > > > > happen when for during the beginning of the test?
> > > > >
> > > > AFAIK the degradation is consistent.
> > > >
> > > > > > BTW with ccw I/O there is
> > > > > > (architecturally) no IOMMU, so the whole address translation makes no
> > > > > > sense in the context of virtio-ccw.
> > > > > I suspect we can do optimization in qemu side.
> > > > >
> > > > > E.g send memtable entry via IOTLB API when vIOMMU is not enabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this makes sense, I can draft patch to see if there's any difference.
> > > > Frankly I would prefer to avoid IOVAs on the descriptor ring (and the
> > > > then necessary translation) for virtio-ccw altogether. But Michael
> > > > voiced his opinion that we should mandate F_IOMMU_PLATFORM for devices
> > > > that could be used with guests running in protected mode. I don't share
> > > > his opinion, but that's an ongoing discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Should we end up having to do translation from IOVA in vhost, we are
> > > > very interested in that translation being fast and efficient.
> > > >
> > > > In that sense we would be very happy to test any optimization that aim
> > > > into that direction.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your input!
> > >
> > > Using IOTLB API on platform without IOMMU support is not intended. Please
> > > try the attached patch to see if it helps.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Halil
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Halil Pasic (2):
> > > > > > mm: move force_dma_unencrypted() to mem_encrypt.h
> > > > > > virtio: let virtio use DMA API when guest RAM is protected
> > > > > >
> > > > > > drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 3 +++
> > > > > > include/linux/dma-direct.h | 9 ---------
> > > > > > include/linux/mem_encrypt.h | 10 ++++++++++
> > > > > > 3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > base-commit: ca7e1fd1026c5af6a533b4b5447e1d2f153e28f2
> > > >From 66fa730460875ac99e81d7db2334cd16bb1d2b27 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:00:10 +0800
> > > Subject: [PATCH] virtio: turn on IOMMU_PLATFORM properly
> > >
> > > When transport does not support IOMMU, we should clear IOMMU_PLATFORM
> > > even if the device and vhost claims to support that. This help to
> > > avoid the performance overhead caused by unnecessary IOTLB miss/update
> > > transactions on such platform.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
> > > ---
> > > hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c | 6 +++---
> > > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> > > index d6332d45c3..2741b9fdd2 100644
> > > --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> > > +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> > > @@ -47,7 +47,6 @@ void virtio_bus_device_plugged(VirtIODevice *vdev, Error **errp)
> > > VirtioBusState *bus = VIRTIO_BUS(qbus);
> > > VirtioBusClass *klass = VIRTIO_BUS_GET_CLASS(bus);
> > > VirtioDeviceClass *vdc = VIRTIO_DEVICE_GET_CLASS(vdev);
> > > - bool has_iommu = virtio_host_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
> > > Error *local_err = NULL;
> > > DPRINTF("%s: plug device.\n", qbus->name);
> > > @@ -77,10 +76,11 @@ void virtio_bus_device_plugged(VirtIODevice *vdev, Error **errp)
> > > return;
> > > }
> > > - if (klass->get_dma_as != NULL && has_iommu) {
> > > - virtio_add_feature(&vdev->host_features, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
> > > + if (false && klass->get_dma_as != NULL &&
> > > + virtio_host_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM)) {
> > > vdev->dma_as = klass->get_dma_as(qbus->parent);
> > > } else {
> > > + virtio_clear_feature(&vdev->host_features, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
> > > vdev->dma_as = &address_space_memory;
> > > }
> > > }
> >
> > This seems to clear it unconditionally. I guess it's just a debugging
> > patch, the real one will come later?
>
>
> My bad, here's the correct one.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >
> > > --
> > > 2.19.1
> > >
> >From b8a8b582f46bb86c7a745b272db7b744779e5cc7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:00:10 +0800
> Subject: [PATCH] virtio: turn on IOMMU_PLATFORM properly
>
> When transport does not support IOMMU, we should clear IOMMU_PLATFORM
> even if the device and vhost claims to support that. This help to
> avoid the performance overhead caused by unnecessary IOTLB miss/update
> transactions on such platform.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
> ---
> hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c | 6 +++---
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> index d6332d45c3..4be64e193e 100644
> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-bus.c
> @@ -47,7 +47,6 @@ void virtio_bus_device_plugged(VirtIODevice *vdev, Error **errp)
> VirtioBusState *bus = VIRTIO_BUS(qbus);
> VirtioBusClass *klass = VIRTIO_BUS_GET_CLASS(bus);
> VirtioDeviceClass *vdc = VIRTIO_DEVICE_GET_CLASS(vdev);
> - bool has_iommu = virtio_host_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
> Error *local_err = NULL;
>
> DPRINTF("%s: plug device.\n", qbus->name);
> @@ -77,10 +76,11 @@ void virtio_bus_device_plugged(VirtIODevice *vdev, Error **errp)
> return;
> }
>
> - if (klass->get_dma_as != NULL && has_iommu) {
> - virtio_add_feature(&vdev->host_features, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
So it looks like this line is unnecessary, but it's an unrelated
cleanup, right?
> + if (klass->get_dma_as != NULL &&
> + virtio_host_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM)) {
> vdev->dma_as = klass->get_dma_as(qbus->parent);
> } else {
> + virtio_clear_feature(&vdev->host_features, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM);
Of course any change like that will have to affect migration compat, etc.
Can't we clear the bit when we are sending the features to vhost
instead?
> vdev->dma_as = &address_space_memory;
> }
> }
> --
> 2.19.1
>
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