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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:14:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
To: Chris Down <chris@...isdown.name>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] tmpfs: Support 64-bit inums per-sb
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, Chris Down wrote:
> Hi Hugh,
>
> Sorry this response took so long, I had some non-work issues that took a lot
> of time last week.
No, clearly it's I who must apologize to you for very slow response.
>
> Hugh Dickins writes:
> >
> > So the "inode64" option will be accepted but redundant on mounting,
> > but exists for use as a remount option after mounting or remounting
> > with "inode32": allowing the admin to switch temporarily to mask off
> > the high ino bits with "inode32" when needing to run a limited binary.
> >
> > Documentation and commit message to alert Andrew and Linus and distros
> > that we are risking some breakage with this, but supplying the antidote
> > (not breakage of any distros themselves, no doubt they're all good;
> > but breakage of what some users might run on them).
>
> Sounds good.
>
> > >
> > > Other than that, the first patch could be similar to how it is now,
> > > incorporating Hugh's improvements to the first patch to put everything
> > > under
> > > the same stat_lock in shmem_reserve_inode.
> >
> > So, I persuaded Amir to the other aspects my version, but did not
> > persuade you? Well, I can live with that (or if not, can send mods
> > on top of yours): but please read again why I was uncomfortable with
> > yours, to check that you still prefer it (I agree that your patch is
> > simpler, and none of my discomfort decisive).
>
> Hmm, which bit were you thinking of? The lack of batching, shmem_encode_fh(),
> or the fact that nr_inodes can now be 0 on non-internal mounts?
I was uncomfortable with tmpfs depleting get_next_ino()'s pool in some
configurations, and wanted the (get_next_ino-like) per-cpu but per-sb
batching for nr_inodes=0, to minimize its stat_lock contention.
I did not have a patch to shmem_encode_fh(), had gone through thinking
that 64-bit inos made an additional fix there necessary; but Amir then
educated us that it is safe as is, though could be cleaned up later.
nr_inodes can be 0 on non-internal mounts, for many years.
>
> For batching, I'm neutral. I'm happy to use the approach from your patch and
> integrate it (and credit you, of course).
Credit not important, but you may well want to blame me for that
complication :)
>
> For shmem_encode_fh, I'm not totally sure I understand the concern, if that's
> what you mean.
My concern had been that shmem_encode_fh() builds up an fh from i_ino
and more, looks well prepared for a 64-bit ino, but appeared to be
announcing a 32-bit ino in its return value: Amir reassures us that
that return value does not matter.
>
> For nr_inodes, I agree that intentional or unintentional, we should at least
> handle this case for now and can adjust later if the behaviour changes.
nr_inodes=0 is an intentional configuration (but 0 denoting infinity:
not very clean, and I've sometimes regretted that choice).
If there's any behavior change, that's a separate matter from these
64-bit ino patches; maybe I mentioned it in passing and confused us -
that we seem to have recently allowed a remounting limited<->unlimited
that was not permitted before, and might or might not need a fix patch.
Sorry again for delaying you, Chris: not at all what I'd wanted to do.
Hugh
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