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Date:   Sun, 1 Mar 2020 19:21:03 +0100
From:   Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
To:     Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@...mail.de>
Cc:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
        "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Andrei Vagin <avagin@...il.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Yuyang Du <duyuyang@...il.com>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@....com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        James Morris <jamorris@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>,
        Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        Christian Kellner <christian@...lner.me>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
        Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>,
        "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@...linux.org>,
        "linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Fix a deadlock in ptrace

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Bernd Edlinger
<bernd.edlinger@...mail.de> wrote:
> The proposed solution is to have a second mutex that is
> used in mm_access, so it is allowed to continue while the
> dying threads are not yet terminated.

Just for context: When I proposed something similar back in 2016,
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20161102181806.GB1112@redhat.com/
was the resulting discussion thread. At least back then, I looked
through the various existing users of cred_guard_mutex, and the only
places that couldn't be converted to the new second mutex were
PTRACE_ATTACH and SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC.


The ideal solution would IMO be something like this: Decide what the
new task's credentials should be *before* reaching de_thread(),
install them into a second cred* on the task (together with the new
dumpability), drop the cred_guard_mutex, and let ptrace_may_access()
check against both. After that, some further restructuring might even
allow the cred_guard_mutex to not be held across all of the VFS
operations that happen early on in execve, which may block
indefinitely. But that would be pretty complicated, so I think your
proposed solution makes sense for now, given that nobody has managed
to implement anything better in the last few years.

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