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Date:   Mon, 02 Mar 2020 10:50:11 -0800
From:   Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:     Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>
Cc:     Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Dmitriy Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        "open list:ANDROID DRIVERS" <devel@...verdev.osuosl.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] binder: do not initialize locals passed to
 copy_from_user()

On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 19:17 +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:00 PM Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 14:25 +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:11 PM Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 14:04 +0100, glider@...gle.com wrote:
> > > > > Certain copy_from_user() invocations in binder.c are known to
> > > > > unconditionally initialize locals before their first use, like e.g. in
> > > > > the following case:
> > > > []
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/android/binder.c b/drivers/android/binder.c
> > > > []
> > > > > @@ -3788,7 +3788,7 @@ static int binder_thread_write(struct binder_proc *proc,
> > > > > 
> > > > >               case BC_TRANSACTION_SG:
> > > > >               case BC_REPLY_SG: {
> > > > > -                     struct binder_transaction_data_sg tr;
> > > > > +                     struct binder_transaction_data_sg tr __no_initialize;
> > > > > 
> > > > >                       if (copy_from_user(&tr, ptr, sizeof(tr)))
> > > > 
> > > > I fail to see any value in marking tr with __no_initialize
> > > > when it's immediately written to by copy_from_user.
> > > 
> > > This is being done exactly because it's immediately written to by copy_to_user()
> > > Clang is currently unable to figure out that copy_to_user() initializes memory.
> > > So building the kernel with CONFIG_INIT_STACK_ALL=y basically leads to
> > > the following code:
> > > 
> > >   struct binder_transaction_data_sg tr;
> > >   memset(&tr, 0xAA, sizeof(tr));
> > >   if (copy_from_user(&tr, ptr, sizeof(tr))) {...}
> > > 
> > > This unnecessarily slows the code down, so we add __no_initialize to
> > > prevent the compiler from emitting the redundant initialization.
> > 
> > So?  CONFIG_INIT_STACK_ALL by design slows down code.
> Correct.
> 
> > This marking would likely need to be done for nearly all
> > 3000+ copy_from_user entries.
> Unfortunately, yes. I was just hoping to do so for a handful of hot
> cases that we encounter, but in the long-term a compiler solution must
> supersede them.
> 
> > Why not try to get something done on the compiler side
> > to mark the function itself rather than the uses?
> This is being worked on in the meantime as well (see
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2020-February/064633.html)
> Do you have any particular requisitions about how this should look on
> the source level?

I presume something like the below when appropriate for
automatic variables when not already initialized or modified.
---
 include/linux/uaccess.h | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/uaccess.h b/include/linux/uaccess.h
index 8a215c..3e034b5 100644
--- a/include/linux/uaccess.h
+++ b/include/linux/uaccess.h
@@ -138,7 +138,8 @@ _copy_to_user(void __user *, const void *, unsigned long);
 #endif
 
 static __always_inline unsigned long __must_check
-copy_from_user(void *to, const void __user *from, unsigned long n)
+copy_from_user(void __no_initialize *to, const void __user *from,
+	       unsigned long n)
 {
 	if (likely(check_copy_size(to, n, false)))
 		n = _copy_from_user(to, from, n);


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