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Date:   Mon, 2 Mar 2020 11:47:20 -0500 (EST)
From:   Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:     Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        <parri.andrea@...il.com>, <will@...nel.org>,
        <peterz@...radead.org>, <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        <npiggin@...il.com>, <dhowells@...hat.com>, <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>, <paulmck@...nel.org>, <akiyks@...il.com>,
        <dlustig@...dia.com>, <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools/memory-model/Documentation: Fix "conflict"
 definition

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, Marco Elver wrote:

> Alan: I think this needs your Signed-off-by, since I added you as
> Co-developed-by.

Here you go:

Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>

> Let me know if this works for you.

See below.

> The definition of "conflict" should not include the type of access nor
> whether the accesses are concurrent or not, which this patch addresses.
> The definition of "data race" remains unchanged.
> 
> The definition of "conflict" as we know it and is cited by various
> papers on memory consistency models appeared in [1]: "Two accesses to
> the same variable conflict if at least one is a write; two operations
> conflict if they execute conflicting accesses."
> 
> The LKMM as well as the C11 memory model are adaptations of
> data-race-free, which are based on the work in [2]. Necessarily, we need
> both conflicting data operations (plain) and synchronization operations
> (marked). For example, C11's definition is based on [3], which defines a
> "data race" as: "Two memory operations conflict if they access the same
> memory location, and at least one of them is a store, atomic store, or
> atomic read-modify-write operation. In a sequentially consistent
> execution, two memory operations from different threads form a type 1
> data race if they conflict, at least one of them is a data operation,
> and they are adjacent in <T (i.e., they may be executed concurrently)."
> 
> [1] D. Shasha, M. Snir, "Efficient and Correct Execution of Parallel
>     Programs that Share Memory", 1988.
> 	URL: http://snir.cs.illinois.edu/listed/J21.pdf
> 
> [2] S. Adve, "Designing Memory Consistency Models for Shared-Memory
>     Multiprocessors", 1993.
> 	URL: http://sadve.cs.illinois.edu/Publications/thesis.pdf
> 
> [3] H.-J. Boehm, S. Adve, "Foundations of the C++ Concurrency Memory
>     Model", 2008.
> 	URL: https://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2008/HPL-2008-56.pdf
> 
> Signed-off-by: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
> Co-developed-by: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
> ---
> v2:
> * Apply Alan's suggested version.
>   - Move "from different CPUs (or threads)" from "conflict" to "data
>     race" definition. Update "race candidate" accordingly.
> * Add citations to commit message.
> 
> v1: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200228164621.87523-1-elver@google.com
> ---
>  .../Documentation/explanation.txt             | 77 +++++++++----------
>  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> index e91a2eb19592a..7a59cadc2f4ca 100644
> --- a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> +++ b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> @@ -1987,28 +1987,28 @@ outcome undefined.
>  
>  In technical terms, the compiler is allowed to assume that when the
>  program executes, there will not be any data races.  A "data race"
> -occurs when two conflicting memory accesses execute concurrently;
> -two memory accesses "conflict" if:
> +occurs when two conflicting memory accesses from different CPUs (or
> +different threads on the same CPU) execute concurrently, and at least
> +one of them is plain.  Two memory accesses "conflict" if:
>  
>  	they access the same location,
>  
> -	they occur on different CPUs (or in different threads on the
> -	same CPU),
> -
> -	at least one of them is a plain access,
> -
>  	and at least one of them is a store.
>  
> -The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains two conflicting
> -accesses which may execute concurrently; if it does then the LKMM says
> -there is a potential data race and makes no predictions about the
> -program's outcome.
> -
> -Determining whether two accesses conflict is easy; you can see that
> -all the concepts involved in the definition above are already part of
> -the memory model.  The hard part is telling whether they may execute
> -concurrently.  The LKMM takes a conservative attitude, assuming that
> -accesses may be concurrent unless it can prove they cannot.
> +We'll say that two accesses from different threads are "race
> +candidates" if they conflict and at least one of them is plain.
> +Whether or not two candidates actually do race in a given execution
> +then depends on whether they are concurrent.  The LKMM tries to
> +determine whether a program contains race candidates which may execute
> +concurrently; if it does then the LKMM says there is a potential data
> +race and makes no predictions about the program's outcome.

Hmmm.  Although the content is okay, I don't like the organization very
much.  What do you think of this for the above portion of the patch)?

Alan Stern



Index: usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
===================================================================
--- usb-devel.orig/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
+++ usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
@@ -1987,28 +1987,36 @@ outcome undefined.
 
 In technical terms, the compiler is allowed to assume that when the
 program executes, there will not be any data races.  A "data race"
-occurs when two conflicting memory accesses execute concurrently;
-two memory accesses "conflict" if:
+occurs when there are two memory accesses such that:
 
-	they access the same location,
+1.	they access the same location,
 
-	they occur on different CPUs (or in different threads on the
-	same CPU),
+2.	at least one of them is a store,
+
+3.	at least one of them is plain,
 
-	at least one of them is a plain access,
+4.	they occur on different CPUs (or in different threads on the
+	same CPU), and
 
-	and at least one of them is a store.
+5.	they execute concurrently.
 
-The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains two conflicting
-accesses which may execute concurrently; if it does then the LKMM says
-there is a potential data race and makes no predictions about the
+In the literature, two accesses are said to "conflict" if they satisfy
+1 and 2 above.  We'll go a little farther and say that two accesses
+are "race candidates" if they satisfy 1 - 4.  Thus, whether or not two
+race candidates actually do race in a given execution depends on
+whether they are concurrent.
+
+The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains two race
+candidates which may execute concurrently; if it does then the LKMM
+says there is a potential data race and makes no predictions about the
 program's outcome.
 
-Determining whether two accesses conflict is easy; you can see that
-all the concepts involved in the definition above are already part of
-the memory model.  The hard part is telling whether they may execute
-concurrently.  The LKMM takes a conservative attitude, assuming that
-accesses may be concurrent unless it can prove they cannot.
+Determining whether two accesses are race candidates is easy; you can
+see that all the concepts involved in the definition above are already
+part of the memory model.  The hard part is telling whether they may
+execute concurrently.  The LKMM takes a conservative attitude,
+assuming that accesses may be concurrent unless it can prove they
+are not.
 
 If two memory accesses aren't concurrent then one must execute before
 the other.  Therefore the LKMM decides two accesses aren't concurrent


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