linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 0/8] MIPS: CI20: add HDMI out support

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Date:   Tue, 3 Mar 2020 16:19:59 +0100
From:   "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@...delico.com>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
Cc:     Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
        Paul Cercueil <paul@...pouillou.net>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/8] MIPS: CI20: add HDMI out support

Hi Rob,

> Am 03.03.2020 um 15:58 schrieb Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:56:56PM +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>> 
>> 
>> Or that there will appear good tools soon. E.g. some GUI
>> based editor tool would be very helpful so that you don't have
>> to fight with the yaml indentation rules. Like there are XML
>> and DTD editors. And even HTML is rarely written manually any more.
>> 
>> IMHO such tools should have been developed and in place *before*
>> the rule to provide DT schemata is enforced.
> 
> You mean tools like what is discussed here:
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/yaml-tips
> 
> There's also yaml-format in the dtschema repo which will reformat a file 
> to the desired formatting. It is just a wrapper around ruamel yaml 
> library.

What I dream of is a higher level higher abstraction than a YAML
editor because the problems I face are not only YAML syntax but that
I don't know what should be where in a scheme file and why.

So I'd like to have a Schema editor. I.e. some editor where I
can edit a list of properties and can e.g. checkmark "required".
And simply type a description into some text field.

And the editor knows where to place the keywords -item -enum
-oneOf -description etc. when doing a Save operation.

Basically what I dream of is more like MarkDown where you write text,
titles paragraphs etc. and that gets magically translated into 
valid HTML. Or even better analogy: OpenOffice where you just
write and format your text and one does not have to edit PostScript
printer commands.

But it is likely to stay a dream.

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus