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Date:   Wed, 4 Mar 2020 09:17:07 -0600
From:   Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Vinod Koul <vkoul@...nel.org>
Cc:     alsa-devel@...a-project.org, tiwai@...e.de,
        gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Hui Wang <hui.wang@...onical.com>, broonie@...nel.org,
        srinivas.kandagatla@...aro.org, jank@...ence.com,
        slawomir.blauciak@...el.com, Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@...el.com>,
        Bard liao <yung-chuan.liao@...ux.intel.com>,
        Rander Wang <rander.wang@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] soundwire: bus_type: add master_device/driver support



> Were the above lines agreed or not? Do you see driver for master devices
> or not? Greg was okay with as well as these patches but I am not okay
> with the driver part for master, so I would like to see that removed.
> 
> Different reviewers can have different reasons.. I have given bunch of
> reasons here, BUT I have not seen a single technical reason why this
> cannot be done.

With all due respect, I consider Greg as THE reviewer for device/driver 
questions. Your earlier proposal to use platform devices was rejected by 
Greg, and we've lost an entire month in the process, so I am somewhat 
dubious on your proposal not to use a driver.

If you want a technical objection, let me restate what I already mentioned:

If you look at the hierarchy, we have

PCI device -> PCI driver
   soundwire_master_device0
      soundwire_slave(s) -> codec driver
   ...
   soundwire_master_deviceN
      soundwire_slave(s) -> codec driver

You have not explained how I could possibly deal with power management 
without having a driver for the master_device(s). The pm_ops need to be 
inserted in a driver structure, which means we need a driver. And if we 
need a driver, then we might as well have a real driver with .probe 
.remove support, driver_register(), etc.

I really don't see what's broken or unnecessary with these patches.

I would also kindly ask that you stop using exclamation marks and what I 
consider as hostile language. I've asked you multiple times, it's not 
professional, sorry.

Regards
-Pierre

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