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Date:   Sat, 7 Mar 2020 17:28:22 +0100
From:   Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.com>
To:     Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...gle.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Add kernel config option for fuzz testing.

On 07. 03. 20, 14:58, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> While syzkaller is finding many bugs, sometimes syzkaller examines
> stupid operations. Currently we prevent syzkaller from examining
> stupid operations by blacklisting syscall arguments and/or disabling
> whole functionality using existing kernel config options, but it is
> a whack-a-mole approach. We need cooperation from kernel side [1].
> 
> This patch introduces a kernel config option which allows disabling
> only specific operations. This kernel config option should be enabled
> only when building kernels for fuzz testing.
> 
> We discussed possibility of disabling specific operations at run-time
> using some lockdown mechanism [2], but conclusion seems that build-time
> control (i.e. kernel config option) fits better for this purpose.
> Since patches for users of this kernel config option will want a lot of
> explanation [3], this patch provides only kernel config option for them.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/google/syzkaller/issues/1622
> [2] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CACdnJutc7OQeoor6WLTh8as10da_CN=crs79v3Fp0mJTaO=+yw@mail.gmail.com
> [3] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191216163155.GB2258618@kroah.com
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
> ---
>  lib/Kconfig.debug | 10 ++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> 
> Changes since v1:
>   Drop users of this kernel config option.
>   Update patch description.
> 
> diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.debug b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> index 53e786e0a604..e360090e24c5 100644
> --- a/lib/Kconfig.debug
> +++ b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> @@ -2208,4 +2208,14 @@ config HYPERV_TESTING
>  
>  endmenu # "Kernel Testing and Coverage"
>  
> +config KERNEL_BUILT_FOR_FUZZ_TESTING
> +       bool "Build kernel for fuzz testing"

If we really want to go this way, I wouldn't limit it for fuzz testing
only. Static analyzers, symbolic executors, formal verifiers, etc. --
all of them should avoid the paths.

So what about KERNEL_BUILT_FOR_ANALYZERS?

> +       default n
> +       help
> +	 Say N unless you are building kernels for fuzz testing.
> +	 Saying Y here disables several things that legitimately cause
> +	 damage under a fuzzer workload (e.g. copying to arbitrary
> +	 user-specified kernel address, changing console loglevel,
> +	 freezing filesystems).
> +
>  endmenu # Kernel hacking
> 


-- 
js
suse labs

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