linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU

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Date:   Mon, 9 Mar 2020 20:46:18 +0100
From:   Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
To:     Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@...linux.org.uk>
Cc:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Nishanth Menon <nm@...com>,
        Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@...cle.com>,
        Tero Kristo <t-kristo@...com>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@...nel.org>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@...il.com>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        kernel-team@...com, Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
<linux@...linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 03:59:45PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 11:58:52AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > - revisit CONFIG_VMSPLIT_4G_4G for arm32 (and maybe mips32)
> > >   to see if it can be done, and what the overhead is. This is probably
> > >   more work than the others combined, but also the most promising
> > >   as it allows the most user address space and physical ram to be used.
> >
> > A rough outline of such support (and likely to miss some corner cases):
> >
> > 1. Kernel runs with its own ASID and non-global page tables.
> >
> > 2. Trampoline code on exception entry/exit to handle the TTBR0 switching
> >    between user and kernel.
> >
> > 3. uaccess routines need to be reworked to pin the user pages in memory
> >    (get_user_pages()) and access them via the kernel address space.
> >
> > Point 3 is probably the ugliest and it would introduce a noticeable
> > slowdown in certain syscalls.

There are probably a number of ways to do the basic design. The idea
I had (again, probably missing more corner cases than either of you
two that actually understand the details of the mmu):

- Assuming we have LPAE, run the kernel vmlinux and modules inside
  the vmalloc space, in the top 256MB or 512MB on TTBR1

- Map all the physical RAM (up to 3.75GB) into a reserved ASID
  with TTBR0

- Flip TTBR0 on kernel entry/exit, and again during user access.

This is probably more work to implement than your idea, but
I would hope this has a lower overhead on most microarchitectures
as it doesn't require pinning the pages. Depending on the
microarchitecture, I'd hope the overhead would be comparable
to that of ARM64_SW_TTBR0_PAN.

> We also need to consider that it has implications for the single-kernel
> support; a kernel doing this kind of switching would likely be horrid
> for a kernel supporting v6+ with VIPT aliasing caches.  Would we be
> adding a new red line between kernels supporting VIPT-aliasing caches
> (present in earlier v6 implementations) and kernels using this system?

I would initially do it for LPAE only, given that this is already an
incompatible config option. I don't think there are any v6 machines with
more than 1GB of RAM (the maximum for AST2500), and the only distro
that ships a v6+ multiplatform kernel is Raspbian, which in turn needs
a separate LPAE kernel for the large-memory machines anyway.

Only doing it for LPAE would still cover the vast majority of systems that
actually shipped with more than 2GB. There are a couple of exceptions,
i.e. early  Cubox i4x4, the Calxeda Highbank developer system and the
Novena Laptop, which I would guess have a limited life expectancy
(before users stop updating kernels) no longer than the 8GB
Keystone-2.

Based on that, I would hope that the ARMv7 distros can keep shipping
the two kernel images they already ship:

- The non-LPAE kernel modified to VMSPLIT_2G_OPT, not using highmem
  on anything up to 2GB, but still supporting the handful of remaining
  Cortex-A9s with 4GB using highmem until they are completely obsolete.

- The LPAE kernel modified to use a newly added VMSPLIT_4G_4G,
   with details to be worked out.

Most new systems tend to be based on Cortex-A7 with no more than 2GB,
so those could run either configuration well.  If we find the 2GB of user
address space too limiting for the non-LPAE config, or I missed some
important pre-LPAE systems with 4GB that need to be supported for longer
than other highmem systems, that can probably be added later.

    Arnd