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Message-ID: <20200309201842.GL12561@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:18:42 +0100
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: Instrumentation and RCU

On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 06:02:32PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> #4 Protecting call chains
> 
>    Our current approach of annotating functions with notrace/noprobe is
>    pretty much broken.
> 
>    Functions which are marked NOPROBE or notrace call out into functions
>    which are not marked and while this might be ok, there are enough
>    places where it is not. But we have no way to verify that.
> 
>    That's just a recipe for disaster. We really cannot request from
>    sysadmins who want to use instrumentation to stare at the code first
>    whether they can place/enable an instrumentation point somewhere.
>    That'd be just a bad joke.
> 
>    I really think we need to have proper text sections which are off
>    limit for any form of instrumentation and have tooling to analyze the
>    calls into other sections. These calls need to be annotated as safe
>    and intentional.

So the only tool I know of that does full callchains is smatch. And in
one of my series I did prod Dan about this.

The alternative is that we bite the bullet and add a vmlinux objtool
pass. This keeps getting mentioned, so maybe it is time :/ I'd hate it,
because it will increase build time at the slowest point, but it'd get
us the coverage we need here.

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