Date:   Wed, 11 Mar 2020 14:25:18 -0700
From:   Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>, Austin.Bolen@...l.com
Cc:     linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        ashok.raj@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 09/12] PCI/AER: Allow clearing Error Status Register
 in FF mode

Hi,

On 3/11/20 1:33 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 05:27:35PM +0000, Austin.Bolen@...l.com wrote:
>> On 3/11/2020 12:12 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>>>
>> <SNIP>
>>> I'm probably missing your intent, but that sounds like "the OS can
>>> read/write AER bits whenever it wants, regardless of ownership."
>>>
>>> That doesn't sound practical to me, and I don't think it's really
>>> similar to DPC, where it's pretty clear that the OS can touch DPC bits
>>> it doesn't own but only *during the EDR processing window*.
>> Yes, by treating AER bits like DPC bits I meant I'd define the specific
>> time windows when OS can touch the AER status bits similar to how it's
>> done for DPC in the current ECN.
> Makes sense, thanks.
>
>>>>>> For the normative text describing when OS clears the AER bits
>>>>>> following the informative flow chart, it could say that OS clears
>>>>>> AER as soon as possible after OST returns and before OS processes
>>>>>> _HPX and loading drivers.  Open to other suggestions as well.
>>>>> I'm not sure what to do with "as soon as possible" either.  That
>>>>> doesn't seem like something firmware and the OS can agree on.
>>>> I can just state that it's done after OST returns but before _HPX or
>>>> driver is loaded. Any time in that range is fine. I can't get super
>>>> specific here because different OSes do different things.  Even for
>>>> a given OS they change over time. And I need something generic
>>>> enough to support a wide variety of OS implementations.
>>> Yeah.  I don't know how to solve this.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't actually unload and reload drivers for the child devices
>>> (Sathy, correct me if I'm wrong here) even though DPC containment
>>> takes the link down and effectively unplugs and replugs the device.  I
>>> would *like* to handle it like hotplug, but some higher-level software
>>> doesn't deal well with things like storage devices disappearing and
>>> reappearing.
>>>
>>> Since Linux doesn't actually re-enumerate the child devices, it
>>> wouldn't evaluate _HPX again.  It would probably be cleaner if it did,
>>> but it's all tied up with the whole unplug/replug problem.
>> DPC resets everything below it and so to get it back up and running it
>> would mean that all buses and resources need to be assigned, _HPX
>> evaluated, and drivers reloaded. If those things don't happen then the
>> whole hierarchy below the port that triggered DPC will be inaccessible.
> Hmm, I think I might be confusing this with another situation.  Sathy,
> can you help me understand this?  I don't have a way to actually
> exercise this EDR path.  Is there some way the pciehp hotplug driver
> gets involved here?
>
> Here's how this seems to work as far as I can tell:
>
>    - Linux does not have DPC or AER control
>
>    - Linux installs EDR notify handler
>
>    - Linux evaluates DPC Enable _DSM
>
>    - DPC containment event occurs
>
>    - Firmware fields DPC interrupt
>
>    - DPC event is not a surprise remove
>
>    - Firmware sends EDR notification
>
>    - Linux EDR notify handler evaluates Locate _DSM
>
>    - Linux reads and logs DPC and AER error information for port in
>      containment mode.  [If it was an RP PIO error, Linux clears RP PIO
>      error status, which is an asymmetry with the non-RP PIO path.]
>
>    - Linux clears AER error status (pci_aer_raw_clear_status())
>
>    - Linux calls driver .error_detected() methods for all child devices
>      of the port in containment mode (pcie_do_recovery()).  These
>      devices are inaccessible because the link is down.
>
>    - Linux clears DPC Trigger Status (dpc_reset_link() from
>      pcie_do_recovery()).
>
>    - Linux calls driver .mmio_enabled() methods for all child devices.
>
> This is where I get lost.  These child devices are now accessible, but
> they've been reset, so I don't know how their config space got
> restored.  Did pciehp enumerate them?  Did we do something like
> pci_restore_state()?  I don't see where either of these happens.
AFAIK, AER error status registers  are sticky (RW1CS) and hence
will be preserved during reset.
>
> So they want to basically do native AER handling even though firmware
> owns AER?  My head hurts.
No, Its meant only for clearing AER registers. In EDR path, since
OS owns clearing DPC registers, they want to let OS own clearing AER
registers as well. Also,  it would give OS a chance to decide whether
we want to keep the device on based on error status and history of the
device attached.
>
> Bjorn

-- 
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux kernel developer

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