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Message-ID: <9ff6eee403d293dd069935ca6979f72131fe5217.camel@kernel.org>
Date:   Wed, 11 Mar 2020 07:52:23 -0500
From:   Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
To:     yangerkun <yangerkun@...wei.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     kernel test robot <rong.a.chen@...el.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, lkp@...ts.01.org,
        Bruce Fields <bfields@...ldses.org>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [locks] 6d390e4b5d: will-it-scale.per_process_ops -96.6%
 regression

On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 09:57 +0800, yangerkun wrote:

[snip]

> 
> On 2020/3/11 5:01, NeilBrown wrote:
> > 
> > I think this patch contains an assumption which is not justified.  It
> > assumes that if a wait_event completes without error, then the wake_up()
> > must have happened.  I don't think that is correct.
> > 
> > In the patch that caused the recent regression, the race described
> > involved a signal arriving just as __locks_wake_up_blocks() was being
> > called on another thread.
> > So the waiting process was woken by a signal *after* ->fl_blocker was set
> > to NULL, and *before* the wake_up().  If wait_event_interruptible()
> > finds that the condition is true, it will report success whether there
> > was a signal or not.
> Neil and Jeff, Hi,
> 
> But after this, like in flock_lock_inode_wait, we will go another 
> flock_lock_inode. And the flock_lock_inode it may return 
> -ENOMEM/-ENOENT/-EAGAIN/0.
> 
> - 0: If there is a try lock, it means that we have call 
> locks_move_blocks, and fl->fl_blocked_requests will be NULL, no need to 
> wake up at all. If there is a unlock, no one call wait for me, no need 
> to wake up too.
> 
> - ENOENT: means we are doing unlock, no one will wait for me, no need to 
> wake up.
> 
> - ENOMEM: since last time we go through flock_lock_inode someone may 
> wait for me, so for this error, we need to wake up them.
> 
> - EAGAIN: since we has go through flock_lock_inode before, these may 
> never happen because FL_SLEEP will not lose.
> 
> So the assumption may be ok and for some error case we need to wake up 
> someone may wait for me before(the reason for the patch "cifs: call 
> locks_delete_block for all error case in cifs_posix_lock_set"). If I am 
> wrong, please point out!
> 
> 

That's the basic dilemma. We need to know whether we'll need to delete
the block before taking the blocked_lock_lock.

Your most recent patch used the return code from the wait to determine
this, but that's not 100% reliable (as Neil pointed out). Could we try
to do this by doing the delete only when we get certain error codes?
Maybe, but that's a bit fragile-sounding.

Neil's most recent patch used presence on the fl_blocked_requests list
to determine whether to take the lock, but that relied on some very
subtle memory ordering. We could of course do that, but that's a bit
brittle too.

That's the main reason I'm leaning toward the patch Neil sent
originally and that uses the fl_wait.lock. The existing alternate lock
managers (nfsd and lockd) don't use fl_wait at all, so I don't think
doing that will cause any issues.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>

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