Message-ID: <e710fd4c-4c0e-448a-6791-beed334536ce@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:02:07 -0700
From:   Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
Cc:     Austin.Bolen@...l.com, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, ashok.raj@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 09/12] PCI/AER: Allow clearing Error Status Register
 in FF mode

Hi,

On 3/12/20 2:52 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 02:29:58PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 3/12/20 2:02 PM, Austin.Bolen@...l.com wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2020 2:53 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 04:07:59PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/20 3:23 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>>> Is any synchronization needed here between the EDR path and the
>>>>>> hotplug/enumeration path?
>>>>> If we want to follow the implementation note step by step (in
>>>>> sequence) then we need some synchronization between EDR path and
>>>>> enumeration path. But if it's OK to achieve the same end result by
>>>>> following steps out of sequence then we don't need to create any
>>>>> dependency between EDR and enumeration paths. Currently we follow
>>>>> the latter approach.
>>>> What would the synchronization look like?
>>>>
>>>> Ideally I think it would be better to follow the order in the
>>>> flowchart if it's not too onerous.  That will make the code easier to
>>>> understand.  The current situation with this dependency on pciehp and
>>>> what it will do leaves a lot of things implicit.
>>>>
>>>> What happens if CONFIG_PCIE_EDR=y but CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_PCIE=n?
>>>>
>>>> IIUC, when DPC triggers, pciehp is what fields the DLLSC interrupt and
>>>> unbinds the drivers and removes the devices.  If that doesn't happen,
>>>> and Linux clears the DPC trigger to bring the link back up, will those
>>>> drivers try to operate uninitialized devices?
>>>>
>>>> Does EDR need a dependency on CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_PCIE?
>>>    From one of Sathya's other responses:
>>>
>>> "If hotplug is not supported then there is support to enumerate
>>> devices via polling  or ACPI events. But a point to note
>>> here is, enumeration path is independent of error handler path, and
>>> hence there is no explicit trigger or event from error handler path
>>> to enumeration path to kick start the enumeration."
>>>
>>> The EDR standard doesn't have any dependency on hot-plug. It sounds like
>>> in the current implementation there's some manual intervention needed if
>>> hot-plug is not supported?
>> No, there is no need for manual intervention even in non hotplug
>> cases.
>>
>> For ACPI events case, we would rely on ACPI event to kick start the
>> enumeration.  And for polling model, there is an independent polling
>> thread which will kick start the enumeration.
> I'm guessing the ACPI case works via hotplug_is_native(): if
> CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_PCIE=n, pciehp_is_native() returns false, and
> acpiphp manages hotplug.
>
> What if CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n also?
If none of the auto scans are enabled then we might need some
manual trigger ( rescan). But this would be needed in native
DPC case as well.
>
> Where is the polling thread?
drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp_hpc.c
>
>> Above both enumeration models are totally independent and has
>> no dependency on error handler thread.
> I see they're currently independent from the EDR thread, but it's not
> clear to me that there's no dependency.  After all, both EDR and the
> hotplug paths are operating on the same devices at roughly the same
> time, so we should have some story about what keeps them from getting
> in each other's way.
>
>> We will decide which model to use based on hardware capability and
>> _OSC negotiation or kernel command line option.

-- 
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux kernel developer

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