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Message-Id: <452D9D7F-A4D1-4628-8E9B-D88E2C919D7A@canonical.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:07:35 +0800
From: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
"Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars)" <sylee@...onical.com>,
Tiffany <tiffany.wang@...onical.com>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Thunderbolt, direct-complete and long suspend/resume time of
Suspend-to-idle
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 18:41, Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 06:10:45PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 16:15, Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 18:38, Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 01:39:51PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am currently investigating long suspend and resume time of suspend-to-idle.
>>>>>> It's because Thunderbolt bridges need to wait for 1100ms [1] for runtime-resume on system suspend, and also for system resume.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I made a quick hack to the USB driver and xHCI driver to support direct-complete, but I failed to do so for the parent PCIe bridge as it always disables the direct-complete [2], since device_may_wakeup() returns true for the device:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /* Avoid direct_complete to let wakeup_path propagate. */
>>>>>> if (device_may_wakeup(dev) || dev->power.wakeup_path)
>>>>>> dev->power.direct_complete = false;
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to be careful here because otherwise you end up situation where
>>>>> the link is not properly trained and we tear down the whole tree of
>>>>> devices which is worse than waiting bit more for resume.
>>>>
>>>> My idea is to direct-complete when there's no PCI or USB device
>>>> plugged into the TBT, and use pm_reuqest_resume() in complete() so it
>>>> won't block resume() or resume_noirq().
>>>
>>> Before doing that..
>>>
>>>>>> Once the direct-complete is disabled, system suspend/resume is used hence the delay in [1] is making the resume really slow.
>>>>>> So how do we make suspend-to-idle faster? I have some ideas but I am not sure if they are feasible:
>>>>>> - Make PM core know the runtime_suspend() already use the same wakeup as suspend(), so it doesn't need to use device_may_wakeup() check to determine direct-complete.
>>>>>> - Remove the DPM_FLAG_NEVER_SKIP flag in pcieport driver, and use pm_request_resume() in its complete() callback to prevent blocking the resume process.
>>>>>> - Reduce the 1100ms delay. Maybe someone knows the values used in macOS and Windows...
>>>>>
>>>>> Which system this is? ICL?
>>>>
>>>> CML-H + Titan Ridge.
>>>
>>> .. we should really understand this better because CML-H PCH root ports
>>> and Titan/Alpine Ridge downstream ports all support active link
>>> reporting so instead of the 1000+100ms you should see something like
>>> this:
>>
>> Root port for discrete graphics:
>> # lspci -vvnn -s 00:01.0
>> 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16) [8086:1901] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>> Capabilities: [a0] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
>> LnkCap: Port #2, Speed 8GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <8us
>> ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
>> LnkCtl: ASPM L0s L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk+
>> ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
>
> Interesting, Titan Ridge is connected to the graphics slot, no? What
> system this is?
No, TBT connects to another port, which supports link active reporting.
This is just to show not all CML-H ports support that.
>
>> Thunderbolt ports:
>> # lspci -vvvv -s 04:00
>> 04:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation JHL7540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Titan Ridge 2C 2018] [8086:15e7] (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>> Capabilities: [c0] Express (v2) Downstream Port (Slot+), MSI 00
>> LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us
>> ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
>> LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; Disabled- CommClk+
>> ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
>
> This one leads to the TBT NHI.
>
>> # lspci -vvnn -s 04:01
>> 04:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation JHL7540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Titan Ridge 2C 2018] [8086:15e7] (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>> Capabilities: [c0] Express (v2) Downstream Port (Slot+), MSI 00
>> LnkCap: Port #1, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us
>> ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
>> LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; Disabled- CommClk-
>> ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
>
> This one is one of the extension downstream ports and it supports active
> link reporting.
>
>> # lspci -vvnn -s 04:02
>> 04:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation JHL7540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Titan Ridge 2C 2018] [8086:15e7] (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>> Capabilities: [c0] Express (v2) Downstream Port (Slot+), MSI 00
>> LnkCap: Port #2, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us
>> ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
>> LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; Disabled- CommClk+
>> ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
>
> This one leads to the xHCI.
>
>> So both CML-H PCH and TBT ports report "LLActRep-".
>
> So in pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus() we only call
> pcie_wait_for_link_delay() if the port supports speeds higher than 5
> GT/s (gen2). Now if I read the above correct all the ports except the
> root port support 2.5 GT/s (gen1) speeds so we should go to the
> msleep(delay) branch and not call pcie_wait_for_link_delay() at all:
>
> if (pcie_get_speed_cap(dev) <= PCIE_SPEED_5_0GT) {
> pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay);
> msleep(delay);
> } else {
> pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n",
> delay);
> if (!pcie_wait_for_link_delay(dev, true, delay)) {
> /* Did not train, no need to wait any further */
> return;
> }
> }
>
> Only explanation I have is that delay itself is set to 1000ms for some
> reason. Can you check if that's the case and then maybe check where that
> delay is coming from?
>
>>> 1. Wait for the link + 100ms for the root port
>>> 2. Wait for the link + 100ms for the Titan Ridge downstream ports
>>> (these are run paraller wrt all Titan Ridge downstream ports that have
>>> something connected)
>>>
>>> If there is a TBT device connected then 2. is repeated for it and so on.
>>>
>>> So the 1000ms+ is really unexpected. Are you running mainline kernel and
>>> if so, can you share dmesg with CONFIG_PCI_DEBUG=y so we can see the
>>> delays there? Maybe also add some debugging to
>>> pcie_wait_for_link_delay() where it checks for the
>>> !pdev->link_active_reporting and waits for 1100ms.
>>
>> I added the debug log in another thread and it does reach !pdev->link_active_reporting.
>
> Hmm, based on the above that should not happen :-(
>
>> Let me see if patch link active reporting for the ports in PCI quirks can help.
>
> Let's first investigate bit more to understand what is going on.
>
> I suggest to create kernel.org bugzilla about this. Please include full
> dmesg and 'sudo lspci -vv' output at least and of course the steps you
> use to reproduce this.
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206837
Kai-Heng
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