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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:34:48 +0100
From: Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
Cc: libc-alpha <libc-alpha@...rceware.org>, carlos <carlos@...hat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH glibc 4/8] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at C startup and thread creation (v15)
* Mathieu Desnoyers:
> ----- On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Florian Weimer fw@...eb.enyo.de wrote:
>
>> * Mathieu Desnoyers:
>>
>>>> You also need to add an assert that the compiler supports
>>>> __attribute__ ((aligned)) because ignoring it produces an
>>>> ABI-incompatible header.
>>>
>>> Are you aware of some helper macro I should use to do this, or
>>> is it done elsewhere in glibc ?
>>
>> I don't think we have any such GCC-only types yet. max_align_t is
>> provided by GCC itself.
>
> I was thinking of adding the following to
>
> sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/rseq-internal.h: rseq_register_current_thread()
>
> + /* Ensure the compiler supports __attribute__ ((aligned)). */
> + _Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq_cs) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
> + "alignment");
> + _Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
> + "alignment");
> +
Something like it would have to go into the *public* header.
Inside glibc, you can assume __attribute__ support.
>>>> The struct rseq/struct rseq_cs definitions
>>>> are broken, they should not try to change the alignment.
>>>
>>> AFAIU, this means we should ideally not have used __attribute__((aligned))
>>> in the uapi headers in the first place. Why is it broken ?
>>
>> Compilers which are not sufficiently GCC-compatible define
>> __attribute__(X) as the empty expansion, so you silently get a
>> different ABI.
>
> It is worth noting that rseq.h is not the only Linux uapi header
> which uses __attribute__ ((aligned)), so this ABI problem exists today
> anyway for those compilers.
Yuck. Even with larger-than-16 alignment?
>> There is really no need to specify 32-byte alignment here. Is not
>> even the size of a standard cache line. It can result in crashes if
>> these structs are heap-allocated using malloc, when optimizing for
>> AVX2.
>
> Why would it be valid to allocate those with malloc ? Isn't it the
> purpose of posix_memalign() ?
It would not be valid, but I don't think we have diagnostics for C
like we have them for C++'s operator new.
>>> However, now that it is in the wild, it's a bit late to change that.
>>
>> I had forgotten about the alignment crashes. I think we should
>> seriously consider changing the types. 8-(
>
> I don't think this is an option at this stage given that it is part
> of the Linux kernel UAPI. I am not convinced that it is valid at all
> to allocate struct rseq or struct rseq_cs with malloc(), because it
> does not guarantee any alignment.
The kernel ABI doesn't change. The kernel cannot use the alignment
information anyway. Userspace struct layout may change in subtle
ways, though.
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