linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: entry: Enable random_kstack

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Message-ID: <202003251319.AECA788D63@keescook>
Date:   Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:22:07 -0700
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@...el.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        "Perla, Enrico" <enrico.perla@...el.com>,
        kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: entry: Enable random_kstack_offset support

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 01:21:27PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 01:32:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > Allow for a randomized stack offset on a per-syscall basis, with roughly
> > 5 bits of entropy.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
> 
> Just to check, do you have an idea of the impact on arm64? Patch 3 had
> figures for x86 where it reads the TSC, and it's unclear to me how
> get_random_int() compares to that.

I didn't do a measurement on arm64 since I don't have a good bare-metal
test environment. I know Andy Lutomirki has plans for making
get_random_get() as fast as possible, so that's why I used it here. I
couldn't figure out if there was a comparable instruction like rdtsc in
aarch64 (it seems there's a cycle counter, but I found nothing in the
kernel that seemed to actually use it)?

> Otherwise, this looks sound to me; I'd jsut like to know whether the
> overhead is in the same ballpark.

Thanks!

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook