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Date:   Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:23:33 -0400
From:   "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:     "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>,
        "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
        Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...tuozzo.com>, axboe@...nel.dk,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/6] block: Introduce REQ_ALLOCATE flag for REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES


Christoph,

> I am very much against that for the following reason:
>
>  - the current REQ_OP_DISCARD is purely a hint, and implementations can
>    (and do) choose to ignore it
>
>  - REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES is an actual data integrity operation with
>    everything that entails

If you want to keep emphasis on the "integrity operation" instead of the
provisioning aspect, would you expect REQ_ALLOCATE (which may or may not
zero blocks) to be considered a deterministic operation or a
non-deterministic one? Should this depend on whether the device
guarantees zeroing when provisioning blocks or not?

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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