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Message-ID: <20200331175547.GB254911@minitux>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:55:47 -0700
From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@...aro.org>
To: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@...aro.org>
Cc: Rishabh Bhatnagar <rishabhb@...eaurora.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
linux-remoteproc <linux-remoteproc@...r.kernel.org>,
Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@...ery.com>, psodagud@...eaurora.org,
tsoni@...eaurora.org, Siddharth Gupta <sidgup@...eaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] remoteproc: Add userspace char device driver
On Tue 31 Mar 09:47 PDT 2020, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 16:45, Bjorn Andersson
> <bjorn.andersson@...aro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon 30 Mar 15:12 PDT 2020, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
> > [..]
> > > > + struct rproc *rproc;
> > > > +
> > > > + rproc = container_of(inode->i_cdev, struct rproc, char_dev);
> > > > + if (!rproc)
> > > > + return -EINVAL;
> > > > +
> > > > + rproc_shutdown(rproc);
> > >
> > > The scenario I see here is that a userspace program will call
> > > open(/dev/rproc_xyz, SOME_OPTION) when it is launched. The file stays open
> > > until either the application shuts down, in which case it calls close() or it
> > > crashes. In that case the system will automatically close all file descriptors
> > > that were open by the application, which will also call rproc_shutdown().
> > >
> > > To me the same functionality can be achieved with the current functionality
> > > provided by sysfs.
> > >
> > > When the application starts it needs to read
> > > "/sys/class/remoteproc/remoteprocX/state". If the state is "offline" then
> > > "start" should be written to "/sys/.../state". If the state is "running" the
> > > application just crashed and got restarted. In which case it needs to stop the
> > > remote processor and start it again.
> > >
> >
> > A case when this would be useful is the Qualcomm modem, which relies on
> > disk access through a "remote file system service" [1].
> >
> > Today we register the service (a few layers ontop of rpmsg/GLINK) then
> > find the modem remoteproc and write "start" into the state sysfs file.
> >
> > When we get a signal for termination we write "stop" into state to stop
> > the remoteproc before exiting.
> >
> > There is however no way for us to indicate to the modem that rmtfs just
> > died, e.g. a kill -9 on the process will result in the modem continue
> > and the next IO request will fail which in most cases will be fatal.
>
> The modem will crash when attempting an IO while rmtfs is down?
>
In certain cases there's nothing else to do.
> >
> > So instead having rmtfs holding /dev/rproc_foo open would upon its
> > termination cause the modem to be stopped automatically, and as the
> > system respawns rmtfs the modem would be started anew and the two sides
> > would be synced up again.
>
> I have a better idea of what is going on now - thanks for writing this up.
>
> I would make this feature a kernel configurable option as some people
> may not want it.
Sounds reasonable.
> I also think having "/dev/remoteprocX" is fine, so
> no need to change anything currently visible in sysfs.
>
I agree, it sure is annoying that remoteproc%d isn't stable, but it's
what we have and consistency is important.
Regards,
Bjorn
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