linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3] mm: Add kvfree_sensitive() for freeing sensitive data objects

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=whV5Z4XioUOW0UM-PBrW7iqb0HwWKQU5Vn8b5pmsDm=Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:01:01 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
Cc:     Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>,
        James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
        "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, keyrings@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: Add kvfree_sensitive() for freeing sensitive data objects

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:45 PM Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> If the memory is really virtually mapped, the only way to find out the
> size of the object is to use find_vm_area() which can be relatively high
> cost and no simple helper function is available.

We _could_ just push it down to a "vfree_sensitive()", and do it
inside the vfree logic. That ends up obviously figuring out the size
of the area eventually.

But since the vmalloc data structures fundamentally aren't irq-safe,
vfree() actually has magical things like "if called in an interrupt,
we'll delay it to work context".

So that "eventually" can be quite a bit later, and it would delay the
overwriting of the sensitive data if we did that.

So this patch does end up simpler, but for vfree data it is actually
technically the better approach too (since overwriting the sensitive
data asap is what you want).

            Linus