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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:47:55 +0200
From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
To: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@...m.mit.edu>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung@...hat.com>, pjones@...hat.com,
daniel.kiper@...cle.com, Leif Lindholm <leif@...iainc.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Sergey Shatunov <me@...k.pw>,
hpa@...or.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
mingo@...hat.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, linux-efi <linux-efi@...r.kernel.org>,
initramfs@...r.kernel.org,
Donovan Tremura <neurognostic@...tonmail.ch>,
Harald Hoyer <harald@...er.xyz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 16:39, Arvind Sankar <nivedita@...m.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > (add Peter, Leif and Daniel)
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 09:43, Dave Young <dyoung@...hat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 04/06/20 at 02:06pm, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > > > Commit
> > > >
> > > > 3ee372ccce4d ("x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from
> > > > bzImage")
> > > >
> > > > removed the .bss section from the bzImage.
> > > >
> > > > However, while a PE loader is required to zero-initialize the .bss
> > > > section before calling the PE entry point, the EFI handover protocol
> > > > does not currently document any requirement that .bss be initialized by
> > > > the bootloader prior to calling the handover entry.
> > > >
> > > > When systemd-boot is used to boot a unified kernel image [1], the image
> > > > is constructed by embedding the bzImage as a .linux section in a PE
> > > > executable that contains a small stub loader from systemd together with
> > > > additional sections and potentially an initrd. As the .bss section
> > > > within the bzImage is no longer explicitly present as part of the file,
> > > > it is not initialized before calling the EFI handover entry.
> > > > Furthermore, as the size of the embedded .linux section is only the size
> > > > of the bzImage file itself, the .bss section's memory may not even have
> > > > been allocated.
> > >
> > > I did not follow up the old report, maybe I missed something. But not
> > > sure why only systemd-boot is mentioned here. I also have similar issue
> > > with early efi failure. With these two patches applied, it works well
> > > then.
> > >
> > > BTW, I use Fedora 31 + Grub2
> > >
> >
> > OK, so I take it this means that GRUB's PE/COFF loader does not
> > zero-initialize BSS either? Does it honor the image size in memory if
> > it exceeds the file size?
>
> Dave, that comment was because the previous report was for systemd-boot
> stub.
>
> Ard, should I revise the commit message to make it clear it's not
> restricted to systemd-boot but anything using handover entry may be
> affected? Maybe just a "for example, when systemd-boot..." and then a
> line to say grub2 with the EFI stub patches is also impacted?
>
Well, the fact the /some/ piece of software is used in production that
relies on the ill-defined EFI handover protocol is sufficient
justification, so I don't think it is hugely important to update it.
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2/blob/f31/f/0001-Add-support-for-Linux-EFI-stub-loading.patch#_743
>
> + kernel_mem = grub_efi_allocate_pages_max(lh.pref_address,
> + BYTES_TO_PAGES(lh.init_size));
>
> Looking at this, grub does allocate init_size for the image, but it
> doesn't zero it out.
>
> This call also looks wrong to me though. It allocates at max address of
> pref_address, which, if it succeeds, will guarantee that the kernel gets
> loaded entirely below pref_address == LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR. In native
> mode, if it weren't for the EFI stub copying the kernel again, this
> would cause the startup code to relocate the kernel into unallocated
> memory. On a mixed-mode boot, this would cause the early page tables
> setup prior to transitioning to 64-bit mode to be in unallocated memory
> and potentially get clobbered by the EFI stub.
>
> The first try to allocate pref_address should be calling
> grub_efi_allocate_fixed instead.
Thanks Arvind. I'm sure the Fedora/RedHat folks on cc should be able
to get these logged somewhere.
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