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Date:   Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:42:16 +0200
From:   Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
To:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Segher Boessenkool <segher@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
        Luc Van Oostenryck <luc.vanoostenryck@...il.com>,
        Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/12] arm64: csum: Disable KASAN for do_csum()

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:28 PM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>
> Hi Will,
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:52:11PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > do_csum() over-reads the source buffer and therefore abuses
> > READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() to avoid tripping up KASAN. In preparation for
> > READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() becoming a macro, and therefore losing its
> > '__no_sanitize_address' annotation, just annotate do_csum() explicitly
> > and fall back to normal loads.
>
> I'm confused by this. The whole point of READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() is that it
> isn't checked by KASAN, so if that semantic is removed it has no reason
> to exist.
>
> Changing that will break the unwind/stacktrace code across multiple
> architectures. IIRC they use READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() for two reasons:
>
> 1. Races with concurrent modification, as might happen when a thread's
>    stack is corrupted. Allowing the unwinder to bail out after a sanity
>    check means the resulting report is more useful than a KASAN splat in
>    the unwinder. I made the arm64 unwinder robust to this case.
>
> 2. I believe that the frame record itself /might/ be poisoned by KASAN,
>    since it's not meant to be an accessible object at the C langauge
>    level. I could be wrong about this, and would have to check.

I thought the main reason was deadlocks when a READ_ONCE()
is called inside of code that is part of the KASAN handling. If
READ_ONCE() ends up recursively calling itself, the kernel
tends to crash once it overflows its stack.

> I would like to keep the unwinding robust in the first case, even if the
> second case doesn't apply, and I'd prefer to not mark the entirety of
> the unwinding code as unchecked as that's sufficiently large an subtle
> that it could have nasty bugs.
>
> Is there any way we keep something like READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() around even
> if we have to give it reduced functionality relative to READ_ONCE()?
>
> I'm not enirely sure why READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() had to go, so if there's a
> particular pain point I'm happy to take a look.

As I understood, only this particular instance was removed, not all of them.

         Arnd