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Date:   Thu, 16 Apr 2020 13:48:11 +0800
From:   Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Cc:     Rong Chen <rong.a.chen@...el.com>,
        "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Matthew Bobrowski <mbobrowski@...browski.org>,
        Ritesh Harjani <riteshh@...ux.ibm.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        lkp@...ts.01.org
Subject: Re: [LKP] Re: [ext4] b1b4705d54: filebench.sum_bytes_mb/s -20.2%
 regression



On 4/15/2020 4:39 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 15-04-20 15:55:09, Xing Zhengjun wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/2020 10:31 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> On Wed 25-03-20 13:50:09, Xing Zhengjun wrote:
>>>> ping...
>>>> The issue still exists in v5.6-rc7.
>>>
>>> So I have tried again to reproduce this so that I can look into the
>>> regression. When observing what is actually happening in the system I have
>>> to say that this workfile (or actually its implementation in filebench) is
>>> pretty dubious. The problem is that filebench first creates the files by
>>> writing them through ordinary write(2). Then it immediately starts reading
>>> the files with direct IO read. So what happens is that by the time direct
>>> IO read is running, the system is still writing back the create files and
>>> depending on how read vs writes get scheduled, you get different results.
>>> Also direct IO read will first flush the range it is going to read from the
>>> page cache so to some extent this is actually parallel small ranged
>>> fsync(2) benchmark. Finally differences in how we achieve integrity of
>>> direct IO reads with dirty page cache are going to impact this benchmark.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds reasonable!  Thanks for the clarification!
>>
>>> So overall can now see why this commit makes a difference but the workload
>>> is IMHO largely irrelevant. What would make sense is to run filebench once,
>>> then unmount & mount the fs to force files to disk and clear page cache and
>>> then run it again. Filebench will reuse the files in this case and then
>>> parallel direct IO readers without page cache are a sensible workload. But
>>> I didn't see any difference in that (even with rotating disk) on my
>>> machines.
>>>
>> We do a test per your suggestion, run "filebench" once during setup stage,
>> then do a "sync",  after that run "filebench" again, from the attached test
>> result "compare", "filebench.sum_bytes_mb/s" regression is disappeared.
> 
> Cool. Thanks for improving the testcase! I'd just note that if you only do
> sync(2) between the setup and benchmark phase, you'll still have files
> cached in the page cache and so direct IO will go through the slow path
> when it has to evict pages from the page cache. The standard (and optimized
> for) situation for direct IO is that there is no page cache for the files
> direct IO is performed to. That's why I suggested remounting the
> filesystem, not just calling sync(2)...
>

Thanks. We will keep improving the test case and try to make sure there 
is no page cache for the files direct IO is performed to.

> 								Honza
> 
>> =========================================================================================
>> tbox_group/testcase/rootfs/kconfig/compiler/debug-setup/disk/fs/test/cpufreq_governor/ucode:
>>    lkp-hsw-d01/filebench/debian-x86_64-20191114.cgz/x86_64-rhel-7.6/gcc-7/test2/1HDD/ext4/fivestreamreaddirect.f/performance/0x27
>>
>> commit:
>>    b1b4705d54abedfd69dcdf42779c521aa1e0fbd3
>>    09edf4d381957b144440bac18a4769c53063b943
>>    v5.5
>>    v5.7-rc1
>>
>> b1b4705d54abedfd 09edf4d381957b144440bac18a4                        v5.5                    v5.7-rc1
>> ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- ---------------------------
>>           %stddev     %change         %stddev     %change         %stddev     %change         %stddev
>>               \          |                \          |                \          |                \
>>       59.40            +0.0%      59.40            -0.8%      58.93            -1.0%      58.80        filebench.sum_bytes_mb/s
>>        3570            +0.0%       3570            -0.8%       3541            -1.0%       3533        filebench.sum_operations
>>       59.50            +0.0%      59.50            -0.8%      59.02            -1.0%      58.89        filebench.sum_operations/s
>>       59.33            +0.0%      59.33            +0.0%      59.33            -0.6%      59.00        filebench.sum_reads/s
>>       83.98            -1.5%      82.75            +0.8%      84.62            +1.0%      84.84        filebench.sum_time_ms/op
> 

-- 
Zhengjun Xing

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