linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: entry: Enable random_kstack

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Message-ID: <202004201529.BB787BB@keescook>
Date:   Mon, 20 Apr 2020 15:34:57 -0700
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Cc:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@...el.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
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        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: entry: Enable random_kstack_offset support

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:54:58PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 01:32:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Since the compiler chooses a 4 bit alignment for the stack,
> > +	 * let's save one additional bit (9 total), which gets us up
> > +	 * near 5 bits of entropy.
> > +	 */
> > +	choose_random_kstack_offset(get_random_int() & 0x1FF);
> 
> Hmm, this comment doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, I get that 0x1ff
> is 9 bits, and that is 4+5 but so what?

Er, well, yes. I guess I was just trying to explain why there were 9
bits saved here and to document what I was seeing the compiler actually
doing with the values. (And it serves as a comparison to the x86 comment
which is explaining similar calculations in the face of x86_64 vs ia32.)

Would something like this be better?

/*
 * Since the compiler uses 4 bit alignment for the stack (1 more than
 * x86_64), let's try to match the 5ish-bit entropy seen in x86_64,
 * instead of having needlessly lower entropy. As a result, keep the
 * low 9 bits.
 */

-- 
Kees Cook