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Message-ID: <SN6PR04MB464009AFAC8F7EFC04184826FCAC0@SN6PR04MB4640.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:14:22 +0000
From:   Avri Altman <Avri.Altman@....com>
To:     Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@....org>,
        "huobean@...il.com" <huobean@...il.com>,
        "alim.akhtar@...sung.com" <alim.akhtar@...sung.com>,
        "asutoshd@...eaurora.org" <asutoshd@...eaurora.org>,
        "jejb@...ux.ibm.com" <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>,
        "martin.petersen@...cle.com" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
        "stanley.chu@...iatek.com" <stanley.chu@...iatek.com>,
        "beanhuo@...ron.com" <beanhuo@...ron.com>,
        "tomas.winkler@...el.com" <tomas.winkler@...el.com>,
        "cang@...eaurora.org" <cang@...eaurora.org>
CC:     "linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 5/5] scsi: ufs: UFS Host Performance Booster(HPB)
 driver



> 
> On 2020-04-26 23:13, Avri Altman wrote:
> >> On 2020-04-25 01:59, Avri Altman wrote:
> > HPB support is comprised of 4 main duties:
> > 1) Read the device HPB configuration
> > 2) Attend the device's recommendations that are embedded in the sense
> buffer
> > 3) L2P cache management - This entails sending 2 new scsi commands
> (opcodes were taken from the vendor pool):
> >       a. HPB-READ-BUFFER - read L2P physical addresses for a subregion
> >       b. HPB-WRITE-BUFFER - notify the device that a region is inactive (in
> host-managed mode)
> > 4) Use HPB-READ: a 3rd new scsi command (again - uses the vendor pool)
> to perform read operation instead of READ10.  HPB-READ carries both the
> logical and the physical addresses.
> >
> > I will let Bean defend the Samsung approach of using a single LLD to attend
> all 4 duties.
> >
> > Another approach might be to split those duties between 2 modules:
> >  - A LLD that will perform the first 2 - those can be done only using ufs
> privet stuff, and
> >  - another module in scsi mid-layer that will be responsible of L2P cache
> management,
> >   and HPB-READ command setup.
> > A framework to host the scsi mid-layer module can be the scsi device
> handler.
> >
> > The scsi-device-handler infrastructure was added to the kernel mainly to
> facilitate multiple paths for storage devices.
> > The HPB framework, although far from the original intention of the
> authors, might as well fit in.
> > In that sense, using READs and HPB_READs intermittently, can be perceived
> as a multi-path.
> >
> > Scsi device handlers are also attached to a specific scsi_device (lun).
> > This can serve as the glue linking between the ufs LLD and the device
> handler which resides in the scsi level.
> >
> > Device handlers comes with a rich and handy set of APIs & ops, which we
> can use to support HPB.
> > Specifically we can use it to attach & activate the device handler,
> > only after the ufs driver verified that HPB is supported by both the platform
> and the device.
> >
> > The 2 modules can communicate using the handler_data opaque pointer,
> > and the handler’s set_params op-mode: which is an open protocol
> essentially,
> > and we can use it to pass the sense buffer in its full or just a parsed version.
> >
> > Being a scsi mid-layer module, it will not break anything while sending
> > HPB-READ-BUFFER and HPB-WRITE-BUFFER as part of the L2P cache
> management duties.
> >
> > Last but not least, the device handler is already hooked in the scsi
> command setup flow - scsi_setup_fs_cmnd(),
> > So we get the hook into HPB-READ prep_fn for free.
> >
> > Later on, we might want to export the L2P cache management logic to
> user-space.
> > Locating the L2P cache management in scsi mid-layer will enable us to do
> so, using the scsi-netlink or some other means.
> 
> Hi Avri,
> 
> I'm not sure that I agree that HPB can be perceived as multi-path.
> Anyway, the above approach sounds interesting to me. A few questions
> though:
> - The only in-tree caller of scsi_dh_attach() I am aware of exists in
>   the dm-mpath driver. I think that call is triggered by multipathd.
>   I don't think that it is acceptable to require that multipathd is
>   running to use the UFS HPB functionality. What is the plan for
>   attaching the UFS device handler to UFS devices?
Right.
Device handlers are meant to be called as part of the device mapper
multi-path code.  We can’t do that – we need to attach & activate the
device handler manually, only after the ufs driver verified that HPB is
supported by both the platform and the device.

I was thinking to rely on the ufs's 2-phase boot:
The ufs boot process is essentially comprised of 2 parts: first a                                                                                                                                                                                                          
handshake with the device, and then, scsi scans and assign a scsi device                                                                                                                                                                                                   
to each lun.  The latter, although running a-synchronically, is                                                                                                                                                                                                            
happening right after reading the device configuration - lun by lun.                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
By now we've read the device HPB configuration, and we are ready  to
attach a scsi device to our HPB luns.  A perfect timing might be while
scsi is performing its .slave_alloc() or .slave_configure().

It will require however, to include <scsi/scsi_dh.h> and "../scsi_priv.h" in ufshpb.c,
Not sure if this is acceptable.

> - Will preparing a SCSI command involve executing a SCSI command? If so,
>   how will it be prevented that execution of that internally submitted
>   SCSI command triggers a deadlock due to tag exhaustion?
Not sure what deadlock are you referring to.
Executing HPB-READ-BUFFER is not part of the data path,
And should not happen too often.
Anyway it can wait for a tag to become free.
Same goes to HPB-WRITE-BUFFER.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bart.

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