linux-kernel - Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: get parent inode when recovering pino

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Message-ID: <20200506223623.GA27760@hsiangkao-HP-ZHAN-66-Pro-G1>
Date:   Thu, 7 May 2020 06:36:26 +0800
From:   Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@....com>
To:     Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>
Cc:     Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: get parent inode when recovering pino

On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 12:16:13PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 02:47:19PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 09:58:22AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 06:24:28PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 08:14:07AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I think this is wrong because the fsync can be done via a file
> > > > > > descriptor that was opened to a now-deleted link to the file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still confused about this...
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know what's wrong with this version from my limited knowledge?
> > > > >  inode itself is locked when fsyncing, so
> > > > >
> > > > >    if the fsync inode->i_nlink == 1, this inode has only one hard link
> > > > >    (not deleted yet) and should belong to a single directory; and
> > > > >
> > > > >    the only one parent directory would not go away (not deleted as well)
> > > > >    since there are some dirents in it (not empty).
> > > > >
> > > > > Could kindly explain more so I would learn more about this scenario?
> > > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > >
> > > > i_nlink == 1 just means that there is one non-deleted link.  There can be links
> > > > that have since been deleted, and file descriptors can still be open to them.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your inspiration. You are right, thanks.
> > >
> > > Correct my words... I didn't check f2fs code just now, it seems f2fs doesn't
> > > take inode_lock as some other fs like __generic_file_fsync or ubifs_fsync.
> > >
> > > And i_sem locks nlink / try_to_fix_pino similarly in some extent. It seems
> > > no race by using d_find_alias here. Thanks again.
> > >
> >
> > (think more little bit just now...)
> >
> >  Thread 1:                                           Thread 2 (fsync):
> >   vfs_unlink                                          try_to_fix_pino
> >     f2fs_unlink
> >        f2fs_delete_entry
> >          f2fs_drop_nlink  (i_sem, inode->i_nlink = 1)
> >
> >   (...   but this dentry still hashed)                  i_sem, check inode->i_nlink = 1
> >                                                         i_sem d_find_alias
> >
> >   d_delete
> >
> > I'm not sure if fsync could still use some wrong alias by chance..
> > completely untested, maybe just noise...
> >
>
> Right, good observation.  My patch makes it better, but it's still broken.
>
> I don't know how to fix it.  If we see i_nlink == 1 and multiple hashed
> dentries, there doesn't appear to be a way to distingush which one corresponds
> to the remaining link on-disk (if any; it may not even be in the dcache), and
> which correspond to links that vfs_unlink() has deleted from disk but hasn't yet
> done d_delete() on.
>
> One idea would be choose one, then take inode_lock_shared(dir) and do
> __f2fs_find_entry() to check if the dentry is really still on-disk.  That's
> heavyweight and error-prone though, and the locking could cause problems.
>
> I'm wondering though, does f2fs really need try_to_fix_pino() at all, and did it
> ever really work?  It never actually updates the f2fs_inode::i_name to match the
> new directory.  So independently of this bug with deleted links, I don't see how
> it can possibly work as intended.

Part of my humble opinion would be "update pino in rename/unlink/link... such ops
instead of in fsync" (maybe it makes better sense of locking)... But actually I'm
not a f2fs folk now, just curious about what the original patch resolved with
these new extra igrab/iput (as I said before, I could not find some clue previously).

Thanks,
Gao Xiang

>
> - Eric