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Message-ID: <ea7e21e3-b324-3286-bcaa-cd37a4036c95@linux.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:12:23 +0800
From: "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@...ux.intel.com>
To: kajoljain <kjain@...ux.ibm.com>,
Joakim Zhang <qiangqing.zhang@....com>,
"acme@...nel.org" <acme@...nel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org" <linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org>,
Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>,
Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Anju T Sudhakar <anju@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Issue in final aggregate value, in case of multiple events
present in metric expression
Hi Kajol,
On 3/24/2020 4:00 PM, kajoljain wrote:
> Hello All,
> I want to discuss one issue raised by Joakim Zhang where he mentioned
> that, we are not getting correct result in-case of multiple events present in metric
> expression.
>
> This is one example pointed by him :
>
> below is the JSON file and result.
> [
> {
> "PublicDescription": "Calculate DDR0 bus actual utilization which vary from DDR0 controller clock frequency",
> "BriefDescription": "imx8qm: ddr0 bus actual utilization",
> "MetricName": "imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util",
> "MetricExpr": "( imx8_ddr0\\/read\\-cycles\\/ + imx8_ddr0\\/write\\-cycles\\/ )",
> "MetricGroup": "i.MX8QM_DDR0_BUS_UTIL"
> }
> ]
> ./perf stat -I 1000 -M imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> # time counts unit events
> 1.000104250 16720 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 22921.0 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 1.000104250 6201 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 2.000525625 8316 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 12785.5 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 2.000525625 2738 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 3.000819125 1056 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 4136.7 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 3.000819125 303 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 4.001103750 6260 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 9149.8 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 4.001103750 2317 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 5.001392750 2084 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 4516.0 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 5.001392750 601 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
>
> Based on given metric expression, the sum coming correct for first iteration while for
> rest, we won't see same addition result. But in-case we have single event in metric
> expression, we are getting correct result as expected.
>
>
> So, I try to look into this issue and understand the flow. From my understanding, whenever we do
> calculation of metric expression we don't use exact count we are getting.
> Basically we use mean value of each metric event in the calculation of metric expression.
>
> So, I take same example:
>
> Metric Event: imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> MetricExpr": "( imx8_ddr0\\/read\\-cycles\\/ + imx8_ddr0\\/write\\-cycles\\/ )"
>
> command#: ./perf stat -I 1000 -M imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
>
> # time counts unit events
> 1.000104250 16720 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 22921.0 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 1.000104250 6201 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 2.000525625 8316 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 12785.5 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 2.000525625 2738 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 3.000819125 1056 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 4136.7 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 3.000819125 303 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 4.001103750 6260 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 9149.8 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 4.001103750 2317 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
> 5.001392750 2084 imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/ # 4516.0 imx8qm-ddr0-bus-util
> 5.001392750 601 imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/
>
> So, there is one function called 'update_stats' in file util/stat.c where we do this calculation
> and updating stats->mean value. And this mean value is what we are actually using in our
> metric expression calculation.
>
> We call this function in each iteration where we update stats->mean and stats->n for each event.
> But one weird issue is, for very first event, stat->n is always 1 that is why we are getting
> mean same as count.
>
> So this the reason why for single event we get exact aggregate of metric expression.
> So doesn't matter how many events you have in your metric expression, every time
> you take exact count for first one and normalized value for rest which is weird.
>
> According to update_stats function: We are updating mean as:
>
> stats->mean += delta / stats->n where, delta = val - stats->mean.
>
> If we take write-cycles here. Initially mean = 0 and n = 1.
>
> 1st iteration: n=1, write cycle : 6201 and mean = 6201 (Final agg value: 16720 + 6201 = 22921)
> 2nd iteration: n=2, write cycles: 6201 + (2738 - 6201)/2 = 4469.5 (Final aggr value: 8316 + 4469.5 = 12785.5)
> 3rd iteration: n=3, write cycles: 4469.5 + (303 - 4469.5)/3 = 3080.6667 (Final aggr value: 1056 + 3080.6667 = 4136.7)
>
> I am not sure if its expected behavior. I mean shouldn't we either take mean value of each event
> or take n as 1 for each event.
>
>
> I am thinking, Should we add an option to say whether user want exact aggregate or
> this normalize aggregate to remove the confusion? I try to find it out if we already have one but didn't get.
> Please let me know if my understanding is fine. Or something I can add to resolve this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Kajol
>
Since you use the interval mode, can this commit fix the issue?
http://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200420145417.6864-1-yao.jin@linux.intel.com
Thanks
Jin Yao
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