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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 12:25:24 -0700
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] exec: Remove recursion from search_binary_handler
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 01:42:53PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> writes:
> > Should binfmt_misc do the install, or can the consuming binfmt do it?
> > i.e. when binfmt_elf sees bprm->execfd, does it perform the install
> > instead?
>
> I am still thinking about this one, but here is where I am at. At a
> practical level passing the file descriptor of the script to interpreter
> seems like something we should encourage in the long term. It removes
> races and it is cheaper because then the interpreter does not have to
> turn around and open the script itself.
Yeah, this does sounds pretty good, though I have concerns about doing
it for a process that isn't expecting it. I've seen a lot of bad code
make assumptions about initial fd numbers. :(
> Strictly speaking binfmt_misc should not need to close the file
> descriptor in binfmt_misc because we have already unshared the files
> struct and reset_files_struct should handle restoring it.
If I get what you mean, I agree. The error case is fine.
> Calling fd_install in binfmt_misc still seems wrong, as that exposes
> the new file descriptor to user space with the old creds.
I haven't dug into the details here -- is there a real risk here? The
old creds are what opened the file originally for the exec. Are you
thinking about executable-but-not-readable files?
> It is possible although unlikely for userspace to find the file
> descriptor without consulting AT_EXECFD so just to be conservative I
> think we should install the file descriptor in begin_new_exec even if
> the next interpreter does not support AT_EXECFD.
I think universally installing the fd needs to be a distinct patch --
it's going to have a lot of consequences, IMO. We can certainly deal
with them, but I don't think it should be part of this clean-up series.
> I am still working on how to handle recursive binfmts but I suspect it
> is just a matter of having an array of struct files in struct
> linux_binprm.
If install is left if binfmt_misc, then the recursive problem goes away,
yes?
--
Kees Cook
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